Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Reading in the forums of some of the potential ACC schools we could get if the ACC blows up, there is very little interest in going to the Big 12. Some are delusional in thinking they can backfill with the Big 12. Others think it will a merger of the best of the Big 12 and ACC. That's delusional too as the Big 12 is the stronger league.

We won't do it but almost would rather invite Memphis and UConn where they would be buying in bulk Big 12 shirts Day 1 than inviting schools that don't want to be here.
 

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Reading in the forums of some of the potential ACC schools we could get if the ACC blows up, there is very little interest in going to the Big 12. Some are delusional in thinking they can backfill with the Big 12. Others think it will a merger of the best of the Big 12 and ACC. That's delusional too as the Big 12 is the stronger league.

We won't do it but almost would rather invite Memphis and UConn where they would be buying in bulk Big 12 shirts Day 1 than inviting schools that don't want to be here.
And just like ASU and Utah, when the **** actually hits the fan their admin will come running.
 

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I'm not sure there's actually another school out there that adds value to the Big Ten, that's a pretty high bar to clear at this point. Maybe Florida State and Miami as a package just because it gives you a huge chunk of the Florida market.

I do think the SEC can tinker around the edges a bit. Carolina and Virginia make a lot of sense for them.
My feeling is that it wont exactly be about adding value, per se, It will be about eliminating contracts, and pulling teams from the competition, and control, if and when it happens.

B1G (Fox, etc) and its media partners may want to take teams, in order to take them from or prevent ESPN or others from locking them up.

SEC (ESPN, Etc) and its media partners may want to lock certain teams in and keep them in their control.

B12 will want to add to its value, will want to shop to more partners or a better deal.

Media partners, may find value in eliminating a conference contract, while you may have to pay more to a couple schools, you dont have to bid on an entire conference. 2 schools at 100M is less than 16 schools at 30M, for Fox, 4 schools 100M is less than 16 at 30M, for ESPN, this is especially true when you are getting rid of the lower value schools. And then you have the B12 and partners, adding 4 schools at any price is going to be less than 16 schools for an entire conference.

Therefore moving into 2030+ it is beneficial for basically any media partner already in the game to eliminate another conference. Thus leaving the scraps to anyone like Amazon to bid on if they want to enter the field.

Yes there are other scenarios at play, but this is one of the ones I could see where it is not exactly about if a school "adds" value.
 

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Even during the Herman years they had a 10 win season and a sugar bowl win when that mattered. It takes multiple bad coaching hires to really kill a blue blood. They also got the savior that is NIL to help things along.
I wouldn’t brag about Tom Herman on this site.
 

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And just like ASU and Utah, when the **** actually hits the fan their admin will come running.
I haven't really noticed, but since becoming the 14th best sports school in a 16 team league, has Utah exhibited any sort of appreciation for getting thrown a lifeline? Or still acting like their p00p don't stink?
 

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I haven't really noticed, but since becoming the 14th best sports school in a 16 team league, has Utah exhibited any sort of appreciation for getting thrown a lifeline? Or still acting like their p00p don't stink?
Yeah, they seem to be too busy eating their humble pie to run their mouths much.
 

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The thing is, how can the B1G care solely about wins when they argue a 6-3 conference record is enough for a playoff bid? So a big 6-3 record is better than a 6-2 SEC conference record? Whose "bottom feeders" are more valuable? Perhaps there should be promotion/relegation? Big and Big 12, SEC and ACC? Since it is cyclical, reward the achievers and demote the schools that require remediation. Tired of Northwestern? Replace them with ISU. Bored from having to endure Vandy yet another season? Welcome Clemson into the mix. Wouldn't that be a moneymaking scheme?
 

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The thing is, how can the B1G care solely about wins when they argue a 6-3 conference record is enough for a playoff bid? So a big 6-3 record is better than a 6-2 SEC conference record? Whose "bottom feeders" are more valuable? Perhaps there should be promotion/relegation? Big and Big 12, SEC and ACC? Since it is cyclical, reward the achievers and demote the schools that require remediation. Tired of Northwestern? Replace them with ISU. Bored from having to endure Vandy yet another season? Welcome Clemson into the mix. Wouldn't that be a moneymaking scheme?
It’s even worse that this past season, there 2 were SEC teams who both went 5-3 in conference and publicly arguing they deserved to be in the CFP: Ole Miss and South Carolina.

Don’t forget… the SEC has no bottom feeders. If a lesser team wins then they were just underrated.
 
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With the talk of collective bargaining CW and Blum have brought up in their last few pods, is there a chance we see smaller leagues move in this direction ahead of the P4? For example: say the MAC and the MWC decided to pool their media rights in order to provide games in every time zone without having to schedule games between their respective leagues' teams. This would be better for the athletes than having NIU fly their football team out to the West Coast like the MWC is currently doing. Would also provide more inventory to choose from for a TV partner.
 

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With the talk of collective bargaining CW and Blum have brought up in their last few pods, is there a chance we see smaller leagues move in this direction ahead of the P4? For example: say the MAC and the MWC decided to pool their media rights in order to provide games in every time zone without having to schedule games between their respective leagues' teams. This would be better for the athletes than having NIU fly their football team out to the West Coast like the MWC is currently doing. Would also provide more inventory to choose from for a TV partner.
TV doesn’t need inventory anymore, that’s the problem. They need premier games/matchups that bring eyeballs. Pooling of non P4 rights won’t accomplish anything and P4 rights won’t be pooled to avoid giving up the competitive edge the P2 has
 

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TV doesn’t need inventory anymore, that’s the problem. They need premier games/matchups that bring eyeballs. Pooling of non P4 rights won’t accomplish anything and P4 rights won’t be pooled to avoid giving up the competitive edge the P2 has
My brief stint in the magazine industry says you can outgrow your income stream. I believe the burden of income for ESPN and Fox is getting too large and that's why Amazon, Apple, and Google have been sitting on the sidelines. We're not too far away where they'll jump in. I believe there will be a massive reduction in production costs within the next few years due to the enormous opportunities in savings from AI. And, that'll be the entry point for technology companies. Semi sarcastically, game over for ESPN/Fox.

It's only logical.
 
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TV doesn’t need inventory anymore, that’s the problem. They need premier games/matchups that bring eyeballs. Pooling of non P4 rights won’t accomplish anything and P4 rights won’t be pooled to avoid giving up the competitive edge the P2 has

Making significantly more money with media rights pooling for the SEC and B10 and the rest of P4/G5 is far more important than retaining the SEC/B10's selfish competitive advantage. And the Feds will insure that, if absolutely required.

And G5 schools can make significantly more money with media rights pooling and fund their own long overdue G5 playoff if those G5 rights are bundled with P4 (P7 with rational realignment) rights.

For example, SEC, ACC and partial CFP rights would be bundled with a G5 conference and partial G5 playoff rights. Offer that package for open bidding and given that ESPN is the incumbent for SEC/ACC rights, give them the right of first refusal to match offers from the likes of Amazon and Google.

CFB needs to act and think like the NFL and quit having ESPN and Fox and their two little puppets control CFB for their sole benefit.

 

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Making significantly more money with media rights pooling for the SEC and B10 and the rest of P4/G5 is far more important than retaining the SEC/B10's selfish competitive advantage. And the Feds will insure that, if absolutely required.

And G5 schools can make significantly more money with media rights pooling and fund their own long overdue G5 playoff if those G5 rights are bundled with P4 (P7 with rational realignment) rights.

For example, SEC, ACC and partial CFP rights would be bundled with a G5 conference and partial G5 playoff rights. Offer that package for open bidding and given that ESPN is the incumbent for SEC/ACC rights, give them the right of first refusal to match offers from the likes of Amazon and Google.

CFB needs to act and think like the NFL and quit having ESPN and Fox and their two little puppets control CFB for their sole benefit.


You mean to tell me the commissioner of a conference where each school makes $7 million wants to pool rights to make more?
 

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Making significantly more money with media rights pooling for the SEC and B10 and the rest of P4/G5 is far more important than retaining the SEC/B10's selfish competitive advantage. And the Feds will insure that, if absolutely required.

And G5 schools can make significantly more money with media rights pooling and fund their own long overdue G5 playoff if those G5 rights are bundled with P4 (P7 with rational realignment) rights.

For example, SEC, ACC and partial CFP rights would be bundled with a G5 conference and partial G5 playoff rights. Offer that package for open bidding and given that ESPN is the incumbent for SEC/ACC rights, give them the right of first refusal to match offers from the likes of Amazon and Google.

CFB needs to act and think like the NFL and quit having ESPN and Fox and their two little puppets control CFB for their sole benefit.


THE G5 DOESN'T WANT THEIR OWN PLAYOFF FOR THE 984TH TIME!!

They want the setup they have now. They would much rather have access to the 'traditional' playoff and a chance to win a game there than hanging a banner that absolutely nobody cares about. Literally every one of their coaches and commissioners had said that but you're so dug in to this fantasy world that you won't listen to the people that it affects.

Pernetti wants pooled rights AND playoff access.

Puppets!
 
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