Omaha Biliew Commits to Iowa State!

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I guess I'll show my age. Yes the game was out of jeopardy and yes he was having fun, but in that video anyone else see afterwards as Omaha was celebrating with the crowd that the NW kid streaked down court and got fouled going up for a layup? That was the only thing that popped out at me. Have fun man, get it out of your system because your teammates and coaches will not allow that next year.
 

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Since this thread popped up, I wanted to ask about Omaha B. to some of you who have been able to follow him in recent years. I have read that his strength is defense (although I saw some encouraging offensive highlights). Are any of you of the opinion that he could play the 5 in a TJ lineup? With Jaz and Osun unable to return, I was thinking that Tre King might be a strong candidate to start at the 4. Jones could return, there's Ward and there's the transfer portal but if he can't be a realistic 5, there's quite a bottleneck of 4s.

What do you recruiting / player eval experts think about him at the 5?
 

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Since this thread popped up, I wanted to ask about Omaha B. to some of you who have been able to follow him in recent years. I have read that his strength is defense (although I saw some encouraging offensive highlights). Are any of you of the opinion that he could play the 5 in a TJ lineup? With Jaz and Osun unable to return, I was thinking that Tre King might be a strong candidate to start at the 4. Jones could return, there's Ward and there's the transfer portal but if he can't be a realistic 5, there's quite a bottleneck of 4s.

What do you recruiting / player eval experts think about him at the 5?
Against a smaller line up without a true post, I’d say yes. Basketball is all about line ups and match ups.

Coupling this with discussion about Pierce commitment and TJs apparent desire to move to more flexibility/ambiguity between positions I could definitely see this.

We play defense and rebound by committee. Unless we thought he was just going to get exposed by a true big in back-to-the-basket game I don’t see why not. And if we were looking at a 5 guarding him when we had the ball he would eat them for lunch off the dribble and on the perimeter.
 

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Since this thread popped up, I wanted to ask about Omaha B. to some of you who have been able to follow him in recent years. I have read that his strength is defense (although I saw some encouraging offensive highlights). Are any of you of the opinion that he could play the 5 in a TJ lineup? With Jaz and Osun unable to return, I was thinking that Tre King might be a strong candidate to start at the 4. Jones could return, there's Ward and there's the transfer portal but if he can't be a realistic 5, there's quite a bottleneck of 4s.

What do you recruiting / player eval experts think about him at the 5?
I saw him play a few weeks back at Valley and I don't see him as a 5 at all. He looked really impressive but it was hard to gauge anything watching a top 25 player against a Valley sophomore team. Even as the biggest guy on the court at all times at Valley, his game isn't a big man's game.
 
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Since this thread popped up, I wanted to ask about Omaha B. to some of you who have been able to follow him in recent years. I have read that his strength is defense (although I saw some encouraging offensive highlights). Are any of you of the opinion that he could play the 5 in a TJ lineup? With Jaz and Osun unable to return, I was thinking that Tre King might be a strong candidate to start at the 4. Jones could return, there's Ward and there's the transfer portal but if he can't be a realistic 5, there's quite a bottleneck of 4s.

What do you recruiting / player eval experts think about him at the 5?

There are times in the last couple games where we should have went to a small lineup with Tre at the 5 when Osun needed a break.
 

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I’ve never seen any evidence of this happenig
I seent it with my own two at my son's practices. The game this past weekend was maddening. They won 44-22, but it was all dribbling endlessly, no passes, 2-3 guys looking for their own shot and only getting it by head-down dribble, shooting over double teams.

Then going to canned fortnite/tik tok celebrations.

The game is cool and fun, and I'm not against celebrating, but when you have planned celebrations as a 6-8 year old, but can't dribble with your left hand, or figure out basics of floor spacing or ball movement, priorities are off.
 
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Or if you are the Waukee NW coach and down by 15+ in the 4th quarter, then you pull your starters with 2+ minutes left.

The game was between Waukee and Waukee NW. These kids have been playing with each other most of their lives. I am sure NW players and students have been chirping since NW beat Waukee earlier in the season.

Plus look at the athmosphere- the gym was jam packed! Waukee had made the game a white-out and NW fans were all in black. It was a charged environment the whole game.

Over the prior minute 2 of Biliew's teammates made dunks. I'm sure he wanted to get in on the fun and well... he's got the ability to put some frosting on his dunk.

All that happened was a kid having fun.
When I was in HS, whenever we were up 15, our coach would never pull the starters until the other team pulled theirs first. With this being a rivalry game though, I’m sure they wanted to showboat as much as they could to really rub it in
 
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I seent it with my own two at my son's practices. The game this past weekend was maddening. They won 44-22, but it wasn't all dribbling endlessly, no passes, 2-3 guys looking for their own shot and only getting it by head-down dribble, shooting over double teams.

Then going to canned celebrations.

The game is cool and fun, and I'm not against celebrating, but whe you have planned celebrations as a 6-8 year old, but can't dribble with your left hand, or figure out basics of floor spacing or ball movement, priorities are off.

Your talking about 6-8 year olds who can't keep their attention on fundamentals and want to dance around?

I've never had a 6-8 year old but from the ones I've been around their attention spam for anything is pretty short.
 

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I seent it with my own two at my son's practices. The game this past weekend was maddening. They won 44-22, but it wasn't all dribbling endlessly, no passes, 2-3 guys looking for their own shot and only getting it by head-down dribble, shooting over double teams.

Then going to canned celebrations.

The game is cool and fun, and I'm not against celebrating, but whe you have planned celebrations as a 6-8 year old, but can't dribble with your left hand, or figure out basics of floor spacing or ball movement, priorities are off.

First, I’ve never seen it at my sons practices or any others I’ve been around.

Second if these really are 6-8 year olds I wouldn’t expect them to be able to dribble well with both hands and understand spacing. I have a 10 year old and his teams struggle with those things.

I honestly think you need to chill.
 
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First, I’ve never seen it at my sons practices or any others I’ve been around.

Second if these really are 6-8 year olds I wouldn’t expect them to be able to dribble well with both hands and understand spacing. I have a 10 year old and his teams struggle with those things.

I honestly think you need to chill.
First, I'm calmer than you are.gif

Second, is it wrong that I think in the hierarchy of needs learning fundamentals is more important than learning the celebrations?

I'm not saying 6-8 year olds should be offensive savants, but coaching basics around passing being a more effective way to move the ball vs going iso against triple teams.

More a fan of breaking it down to bite-sized chunks they can understand vs just rolling the ball out and letting your 1-2 best athletes will out a meaningless win.
 

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Nobody is saying they have a problem with the dunk. Some have said they don’t live the showboating afterwards and I - thinking incorrectly this was off a miss up 20 with a minute left where he was cherry picking (when it was, in fact, off a full court press by NW) said I could do without it.

This was more about Iowa fans going crazy and then making personal attacks against an 18 year old online.
 

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First, I'm calmer than you are.gif

Second, is it wrong that I think in the hierarchy of needs learning fundamentals is more important than learning the celebrations?

I'm not saying 6-8 year olds should be offensive savants, but coaching basics around passing being a more effective way to move the ball vs going iso against triple teams.

More a fan of breaking it down to bite-sized chunks they can understand vs just rolling the ball out and letting your 1-2 best athletes will out a meaningless win.

I feel like you haven't really spent much time around 6-8 year olds. Let alone actually coached any of them.


I watched 8 year olds trying to set screens and it looked like if you gave a monkey a loaded gun.
 
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First, I'm calmer than you are.gif

Second, is it wrong that I think in the hierarchy of needs learning fundamentals is more important than learning the celebrations?

I'm not saying 6-8 year olds should be offensive savants, but coaching basics around passing being a more effective way to move the ball vs going iso against triple teams.

More a fan of breaking it down to bite-sized chunks they can understand vs just rolling the ball out and letting your 1-2 best athletes will out a meaningless win.
If you have a problem with the coaching that is happening at your kids practice then find another league. You already have people telling you that's not their experience at their youth leagues. Or maybe volunteer to coach. Seems most of these youth leagues are always looking for people to help out. I've only had one child participate briefly in youth basketball, but I can tell you those kids didn't spend any time at practice learning celebrations.