Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

HawaiiClone

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However things shake out, conferences ultimately want the opportunity to get the most playoff spots. So how can football be set up like other sports where tournament bids are unevenly distributed based on how many tournament worthy teams are in a conference? To reduce the number of rounds of playoffs you could only award auto berths to say the top 4-6 conference champs and make the rest at-large bids.
 

SEIOWA CLONE

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How so? What exactly are they doing?
They cannot do a damn thing to stop it and are just making a political show to gain points down the road. The Athletic had a great article about this, and why schools and conferences do not want to announce their plans, and get the politicians involved. Maybe if the B8 had did this when we added the SWC teams we would not have ended up with Baylor, who is only here because the Governor of the state and the Lt. Governor were alumni of Baylor.
 

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We wouldn't be "picking up every school we think the PAC is interested in". We'd be picking up the only attractive school still available to the PAC. A school that brings an excellent football program, fantastic facilities, one of the larger markets in the nation, and a presence in southern California. But most importantly, as Jon Wilner just told Chris, it ends the PAC and that will cause numerous PAC schools to jump to the Big 12.

Is it guaranteed to be a great move for the Big 12? No, but it's a calculated risk that I believe will pay off. The Big 12 can't afford to sit back and play cautious and still expect to survive and thrive.
If SDSU was so valuable, they would already be in a major conference. We could have taken them instead of UCF…we didn’t. The PAC could have added them a year ago…they didn’t. I don’t see any reason to add them. The Big 12 should only be focused on making the Big 12 stronger long-term. We don’t want to add the equivalent of a Rutgers.
 

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I’m not sure I agree here. When did you watch a game in a bar and become a follower of that team? I would not be at all surprised if we are approaching the day (or are already there) when more households have an Amazon prime membership than have access to ESPN. And my guess would be that being able to watch a league or team consistently is worth fandom is grown.
90% of American premier league fans essentially did this
 

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Maybe I’m wrong, but I thought Paramount owned CBS?

That would be like SEC games on Disney+

But again, maybe I’m wrong and CBS is the actual owner.
Paramount+ is CBS streaming service. It replaced CBS all access. But also the Paramount Streaming service For all Paramount Content. So it also includes content from Paramount Media Networks as well as CBS, and movies from Paramount Pictures.

All of CBS Streaming content is on Paramount+.

Basically they are all branches of Paramount Global, what was ViacomCBS until Feb 2022 when they rebranded.

Just branches of one tree, Paramount Pictures, Paramount Media Networks, Paramount Streaming, Paramount Global Distribution, CBS Entertainment. All Branches of Paramount Global.

Currently Paramount+ does have some sports.

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exCyDing

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Why not just add 4 pac teams instead of SDSU? That’s the intelligent move
Exactly this. I’d take any of the PAC schools ahead of SDSU, even Oregon St. Probably.

The strongest version of the PAC is probably the current 10 members. I’d be surprised if they make any additions before more schools leave. Nobody moves the needle in the right direction.

The best way for the Big XII to destabilize the PAC is to put as much difference between the two conferences as possible. The greater the difference, the greater the reason for schools to make the jump. The closer the two conferences are, the less reason for schools to make the jump.

SDSU will be in the PAC someday. It’s just that version of the PAC probably won’t have between 5-8 of the current members by the time SDSU officially joins. Taking SDSU at this juncture would undoubtedly diminish the status of that future version of the PAC, but what good would that do? Nobody’s pushing for the Big XII to make moves for the reason of destabilizing or diminishing the AAC or MAC, and that’s essentially what that would do.
 

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Not exactly sure.
I’m at the point that we go hard after AZ. They seem like the school that is the most favorable to us. One team looks like it could tip the PAC. They can’t stay at 9 they have to do something and that makes the rest nervous. Should shake at least one more loose and that would give us some solid late game slots. It would also shake others loose and we can be a little selective if we want.

Even if we have to go with 13 for a year, I say do it and it would be worth it.
 

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There are over 200 million Prime customers. About 40% watch the streaming service. That is still more than have cable.
200 million Prime customers still need to be 'driven' to our games. 'Exposure' is unquestionably better with OTA. In fact, 'exposure' is at the core of all the debates here. Adding SDSU brings us to another OTA entry point. And OTA, unquestionably, has fewer alternative programming options than streaming. Look at it this way. OTA is merely a commercial for the conference. Die hard fans will always find the most convenient way to view their team. I know I'm not the norm, but for me the stress of watching the game live has shortened my life. So cyclones.com is a welcome option. Even my reviewing options are only those where we win.
 

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It would be helpful for the Big 12 and Pac schools who now have the best shot at competing with the SEC and Big 10 if they
could contract the schools that don't meet their criteria. However, at the same time they could give the contracted programs severance packages that would help them build into stronger programs that could one day be strong enough to move back up to their previous tier.
 

HawaiiClone

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There are over 200 million Prime customers. About 40% watch the streaming service. That is still more than have cable.
The 200 million Prime customers are from 22 different countries so there are a certain number of customers from other countries who have little or no connection to college football.

 
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AuH2O

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Respectfully, that's not what Jon Wilner just told Chris, and I think he's a little more connected to the PAC than you.
In all fairness, when OUT happened he was also saying none of Big 12 would be good for the PAC despite several teams behind behind only Oregon in viewership.

So Wilner isn’t super brilliant here. Only when getting clubbed by the reality of rumored media dollars did he stop being completely and totally wrong about everything.
 

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Way up there
200 million Prime customers still need to be 'driven' to our games. 'Exposure' is unquestionably better with OTA. In fact, 'exposure' is at the core of all the debates here. Adding SDSU brings us to another OTA entry point. And OTA, unquestionably, has fewer alternative programming options than streaming. Look at it this way. OTA is merely a commercial for the conference. Die hard fans will always find the most convenient way to view their team. I know I'm not the norm, but for me the stress of watching the game live has shortened my life. So cyclones.com is a welcome option. Even my reviewing options are only those where we win.
Amazon has NFL games now, you think they won't plaster their Saturday lineup all over that broadcast? Anyone who has ever clicked on any sports related item on Amazon will see those ads.
 
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But are they really?

Other than Newsom's initial grandstanding, has any follow-up action occurred? Heck, has he even commented further?


Involved in getting Cal included as a transaction cost, perhaps. They may not be able to prevent move, but they could make it unprofitable
 

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200 million Prime customers still need to be 'driven' to our games. 'Exposure' is unquestionably better with OTA. In fact, 'exposure' is at the core of all the debates here. Adding SDSU brings us to another OTA entry point. And OTA, unquestionably, has fewer alternative programming options than streaming. Look at it this way. OTA is merely a commercial for the conference. Die hard fans will always find the most convenient way to view their team. I know I'm not the norm, but for me the stress of watching the game live has shortened my life. So cyclones.com is a welcome option. Even my reviewing options are only those where we win.
OTA is the top of the mountain, its how you build fans for generations to come. Its why MLB is dying (hardly on OTA), and NFL and college football keep rising. And that pesky Big 10, they are not dumb, everything they do is smart, and of course they go and grab every good time slot on OTA for their next deal.