Ohio St gets Big Noon
Michigan gets CBS in the afternoon
USC gets Primetime on NBC
Michigan gets CBS in the afternoon
USC gets Primetime on NBC
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Can’t fault that it is an emotional topic for some, given what’s at stake.
I’m curious as to how much ESPN knows what they’re going to do next. They’ve likely known for months that getting shutout on BIG was possible, if not likely. Maybe they didn’t see USC coming, but I am guessing they knew it possible.
They certainly had a very good idea of being out on BIG when making the 24.5 million offer to PAC. If truly interested in locking down PAC as-is, a better offer would be expected imo, outside the dynamic of not bidding against one’s self.
ESPN without BIG and USC, has budget headroom to take control of what’s left.
This sucks on the surface. I'd rather have NOTHING to do with ESPN. Puke.
I think you're right on viewership. But the value to streamers goes beyond what we think of as the value-generators for typical TV. Streamers should be able to get more value out of a single viewer because that viewer means a dedicated subscription, with advertising that is more personalized (meaning that it's more valuable to advertisers), and some likelihood that the subscriber will use the service outside of just watching sports.
For instance, I don't have Amazon Prime right now. But if Amazon Prime Video had the Big 12's Tier 3 rights, I'd probably subscribe for at least the football and basketball seasons. In that time, chances are that I'd make more purchases on Amazon than I do right now because of the non-streaming benefits.
Imo it’s hard to see this being good for both, right? Seems inefficient for ESPN to have three middle class conferences.
Why limit a conference to two least profitable time zones, when you could move best of PAC to Big 12?
With this being ESPN, they could try to move some Big 12 west, maybe a few more east, having a PAC and ACC as middle class. Getting OUT free as a perk. The B12 could act as one to block that, make ESPN move PAC to Big 12, but I’m not sure the eastern Big 12 schools wouldn’t want to go east.
It’s harder for the Big 12 to become 3rd conference with ESPN out on BIG. Maybe we’ll have to give up eastern schools in exchange for ESPN making Big 16 or Big 18 and a P4 setup. Better than Big 12 being liquidated to coasts
Of course, if FOX wants a BIG friendly middle class conference if their own, the chance of a Big 16/18 is much better
If ESPN is completely out of Big Ten including basketball, I can see them making a huge push for the Big 12. Basketball is still important to them as well, and I can see them overpaying for the football product to obtain all of the rights.
I totally agree with this reasoning and you are spot on with the added marketing value. Conferences though will be hesitant to pull that trigger becuase the ratings on those streaming games are awful and there was some concern mentioned about making fans pay for another service to watch. It could be an interesting option for the pac who simply needs money but for other conferences streaming is still a risk.
Pac-12 extending with ESPN makes more sense now (For ESPN, not the conference). The network knew they lost on the B1G and want exclusive bargaining with the conference.
Makes NO sense for the conference to not take negotiations to the open market....
No matter what, I think it benefits the Big 12 to be 3 time zones and able to start at 11 AM CT and have a BYU, Tech, KSU, or ISU game in the evening
Makes NO sense for the conference to not take negotiations to the open market....
No matter what, I think it benefits the Big 12 to be 3 time zones and able to start at 11 AM CT and have a BYU, Tech, KSU, or ISU game in the evening
I'm starting to worry that the BIG 12 will get screwed in all of this.
Yeah, I'm not liking this so far. It's one thing for the B1G to have Fox, but to also have CBS and NBC on board seems like bad news for the Big 12 and Pac 12.
Can we get a fling golf team setup then? I saw that was on yesterday right after the corgi races.
This means that Fox has a bunch of extra slots they need filled and so does ESPN.
Is the CBS and NBC just for their primary channel? cbs still has cbs sports and paramount. NBC still has TNT and peacock. Maybe I am alone but i always felt that we (big 12) were going to be regulated to the secondary channels. and maybe every once and awhile have a high level game make it on a primary channel.
CBS is still going to want a noon eastern time zone game, along with a prime time game. Starting P12 games for a noon start mean 9:00 o'clock in the West. But does line up well with a the P12 night game in prime time.
NBC, one would think would like to have a noon and 3:30 games, for when they are not covering ND and one when they are.
ESPN loses the B10 games but picks up the SEC games, along with their current ACC contract, looks like they might also want to continue to pick up a few games from the B12, like they did before. They also want to show a lot of ACC games on the ACC network, which they are paying for.
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