Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Does anyone even go to those places if their preferred Sportsball team isn’t playing?
I know it's crazy, but hear me out here. People could go on a vacation and do ocean stuff in San Diego, Mountain stuff in Fr. Collins, and Debauchery in New Orleans. Then they could take a road trip to Manhattan and go see ISU play on the road.

Instead people want a more compacted travel itinerary so they can go watch what is pretty much like watching a game at Lawrence. And for the record I went to a CSU game in Fr. Collins vs. SDSU in the peak of the Lubick era when CSU was ranked. Crowd was horrible. Atmosphere was horrible.

I also went to AFA games a couple times. These were not against Army or Navy, so pretty lame atmospheres. Very strange. The interest in the city outside of the Academy for AF football was zero.
 

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So reading between the lines here….Oregon and Washington want to keep the PAC12 alive so they can (probably) negotiate uneven revenue sharing to stay in the conference.

So yeah, that scenario makes total sense, they would make more money staying in the PAC…and the direct cost of all the other schools. Oh Stewie…you use words wrong

I thoroughly enjoy Jason’s tweets and overall commentary on this dumpster fire
 

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So reading between the lines here….Oregon and Washington want to keep the PAC12 alive so they can (probably) negotiate uneven revenue sharing to stay in the conference.

So yeah, that scenario makes total sense, they would make more money staying in the PAC…and the direct cost of all the other schools. Oh Stewie…you use words wrong

I thoroughly enjoy Jason’s tweets and overall commentary on this dumpster fire

The one thing that I 100% believe is true in all of this is that AZ wants out badly.
 
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So reading between the lines here….Oregon and Washington want to keep the PAC12 alive so they can (probably) negotiate uneven revenue sharing to stay in the conference.

So yeah, that scenario makes total sense, they would make more money staying in the PAC…and the direct cost of all the other schools. Oh Stewie…you use words wrong

I thoroughly enjoy Jason’s tweets and overall commentary on this dumpster fire

I think they just want to bide their time until they can find a suitable landing spot for themselves.
 

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Really like that Jason guy. I'm changing my mind on wanting a few of the PAC schools. I'd love to get Arizona and CU on board and then get a way better TV deal than the PAC.
 

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Really like that Jason guy. I'm changing my mind on wanting a few of the PAC schools. I'd love to get Arizona and CU on board and then get a way better TV deal than the PAC.
If we bring in Arizona and Colorado, you've gotta think that pries loose a couple of others.

I know it's been discussed and turned down by many (and I agree with most of the arguments), but given the apparent hesitance of Arizona State and Utah to consider the B12, maybe you approach Oregon State & Washington State next. They're scared to death of what's going to happen going forward. I understand they cause you to lose some money per school, but taking 4 more schools from the Pac-10 destroys that league and maybe you wind up picking up a couple more that help you with revenue. You could even end up picking up 8 of the remaining 10 (not Cal/Stanford), which would be almost a merger, but with the B12 having all the decision-making power. Oregon and Washington could be in a really tough spot - do they go independent and make almost no money, with no B1G guarantee of rescue a few years down the road? I don't think the ACC wants just 2 schools on the opposite coast, but I could be wrong, and the SEC will have zero interest. So then their options are independence or the B12, and we can basically hand them a long-term GOR and say take it or leave it.
 

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Really like that Jason guy. I'm changing my mind on wanting a few of the PAC schools. I'd love to get Arizona and CU on board and then get a way better TV deal than the PAC.

At this point I don't see the point in bringing ASU or Utah.
That conference going to implode on its own.
Take the teams that want in. Other chips will fall in the next 3-5 years.
 

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If we bring in Arizona and Colorado, you've gotta think that pries loose a couple of others.

I know it's been discussed and turned down by many (and I agree with most of the arguments), but given the apparent hesitance of Arizona State and Utah to consider the B12, maybe you approach Oregon State & Washington State next. They're scared to death of what's going to happen going forward. I understand they cause you to lose some money per school, but taking 4 more schools from the Pac-10 destroys that league and maybe you wind up picking up a couple more that help you with revenue. You could even end up picking up 8 of the remaining 10 (not Cal/Stanford), which would be almost a merger, but with the B12 having all the decision-making power. Oregon and Washington could be in a really tough spot - do they go independent and make almost no money, with no B1G guarantee of rescue a few years down the road? I don't think the ACC wants just 2 schools on the opposite coast, but I could be wrong, and the SEC will have zero interest. So then their options are independence or the B12, and we can basically hand them a long-term GOR and say take it or leave it.
Yep. Someone mentioned it on this site before, but you give full shares to the ones that put in their notice this year with less per share the later they join.
 

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Yep. Someone mentioned it on this site before, but you give full shares to the ones that put in their notice this year with less per share the later they join.
That would be the ultimate hit to the ego of Oregon and Washington - if their in-state rivals with smaller enrollment and fan support were making more money than them because they overestimated their own value and got backed into a corner.
 

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Really like that Jason guy. I'm changing my mind on wanting a few of the PAC schools. I'd love to get Arizona and CU on board and then get a way better TV deal than the PAC.

If Yormark grabs CU and UofA then Coach Leipold best do right by him when he signs a fat extension at KU.
 
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Yep. Someone mentioned it on this site before, but you give full shares to the ones that put in their notice this year with less per share the later they join.
Bingo...they are all like "what's the hurry...the Big 12 will still be there as an option down the road"....

Perhaps, but at $25M instead of $45M because you were too pompous to move when you should have.
 

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Bingo...they are all like "what's the hurry...the Big 12 will still be there as an option down the road"....

Perhaps, but at $25M instead of $45M because you were too pompous to move when you should have.

That’s what really bothers me most about the PAC homer media dorks. They base everything on a false notion that the Big 12 NEEDS to do something and that we’re somehow in “trouble”.
 

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If we bring in Arizona and Colorado, you've gotta think that pries loose a couple of others.

I know it's been discussed and turned down by many (and I agree with most of the arguments), but given the apparent hesitance of Arizona State and Utah to consider the B12, maybe you approach Oregon State & Washington State next. They're scared to death of what's going to happen going forward. I understand they cause you to lose some money per school, but taking 4 more schools from the Pac-10 destroys that league and maybe you wind up picking up a couple more that help you with revenue. You could even end up picking up 8 of the remaining 10 (not Cal/Stanford), which would be almost a merger, but with the B12 having all the decision-making power. Oregon and Washington could be in a really tough spot - do they go independent and make almost no money, with no B1G guarantee of rescue a few years down the road? I don't think the ACC wants just 2 schools on the opposite coast, but I could be wrong, and the SEC will have zero interest. So then their options are independence or the B12, and we can basically hand them a long-term GOR and say take it or leave it.

The goal of adding Pac12 teams is to keep payouts per school equal to better than projected based on the new Big12 (w Cincy, UCF, Hou & BYU).

Adding CU, UA, WSU & OSU would not accomplish that. WSU & OSU are probably the 2 least valuable properties in the Pac12. CU & UA might be around the Big12 breakeven payout per school. Adding Pac12 schools only makes sense if 2 of 4 teams added by the Big12 are among: ASU, UU, OR, UW.

Destabilizing the Pac12 doesn't do any good if it destabilizes the Big12!