Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Last year’s viewership among remaining Big 12 and PAC 12 schools less OUT:
1. Oregon
2. OKie St
3. ISU
4. Baylor
So that would be why for starters.
As someone mentioned before, if I was an ISU fan I would want Oregon and Washington to go to the Big10. This would ensure that the Pac12 implodes and gives the Big12 the best chance of getting the four corners. As long as Oregon and Washington are in the Pac12, they still have a pulse
Radio silence. Thought there would be more noise this evening.
This is what I don’t understand. People say “Iowa State adds no value” but these stats clearly say otherwise. This isn’t a case of potential eyeballs, these are the numbers of people actually watching the damn games!
The same thing kind of showed when the Rams moved out of St. Louis. Ratings were way down (at least at first, I’m sure they’re better now) when they moved to LA but the franchise got a huge jump in worth solely do to the potential of the market. What the hell is the difference if less people are actually watching them?
The difference is people were using that against ISU, who was #27 in viewership and #21 in attendance. We are using it to describe teams that draw like KU and are in the 50s-70s in viewership.
In short, we are correct, the Mandel’s of the world are clueless or liars.
Because writing for a newspaper, sports site or having Twitter has no requirement to be smart, accurate or know what the hell you are talking about.
The question is if other teams are going to sit around and wait for it.
Colorado circa 2010 is a good allegory. They weren’t agitating for the breakup of of Big XII like Nebraska, A&M and Mizzou were. Nobody was hot after them to jump into a new conference and make waves. But they got an opportunity to jump from the unstable conference to one that was more stable. I have no recollection on the money angle, but it very well could have been more at the time.
So, the question is, who is the Colorado in the PAC? Who could be peeled away, and would that tumble the rest of the conference? If one more jumps, I think the run would be on.
I saw Phi Slamma Jamma in person! @ LSU in 1983-4. Man, could they PLAY!
I'm with you. My post wasn't "do you care/want Oregon and Washington." My post was "What do you think Oregon and Washington are going to do (with no Big 10 invite)?"
My answer to this is Arizona and Arizona State. They fit REALLY well culture-wise in the new Big 12.
Many PAC teams still aren't looking at it correctly. There seems to be a strong mindset there that academics matter more than revenue and they don't associate with average or below-average schools. When counting championships they're looking at all sports, not just sports they should care about. I expected that sentiment from Stanford-Cal, but feel I've seen it from a few of their other schools as well. Until they realize they're being left way behind, you might see them try to stick it out together.
I’d give even odds we’re still at 10 teams when we kick off vs SEMO.
Edit: I guess I should say 12.
That would be unfortunate for everybody involved. Tread water while the Big10 and SEC keep working on their grand plans.
Not being able to make up their mind whether they should hold out for B1G or not mainly. Just flat out being wishy washy. The Big Xii teams should really want to be in the Big Xii. I think that would be the case with the four corner schools.
This reminds me of the conversations about USC having independent in its pocket when reaching out to the BIG.
Going independent like BYU did or like the proposal in which UW and Oregon are co independent is different than when GT tried it. For many reasons, namely the end goal in mind and different broadcasts rights era.
For somewhat the same reason ESPN making USC independent was on the table, ESPN would likely actually prefer to extract the top remaining value from the PAC without having to pay for anything else. If you're on team ESPN, you're not really independent, you're in the SEC-ACC. It is do able, and imo likely preferred over this Pac-ACC joint agreement, and certainly way above merger.
It is just taking this consolidation of brands that is driving realignment to an extreme, in this case, down to two schools, then just taking your other ESPN inventory (SEC, ACC, soon Big 12) and maximizing ESPN return according to scheduling constraints (in which case UW and Oregon not having any is much better than if a conference)
