MLB: ***Official 2022 Chicago Cubs Season Thread***

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I turned the game on for pretty much the first time all year. Bottom 8 down 1, 0 outs with runners on 1st and 3rd and got nothing. That concludes my watching for a while.
 
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I turned the game on for pretty much the first time all year. Bottom 8 down 1, 0 outs with runners on 1st and 3rd and got nothing. That concludes my watching for a while.

Same situation here. Tuned in Tuesday night even though they were obviously going to lose because it was the first game that it appeared I could watch all season (Thanks Marquee) tuned in randomly last night and yeah, I may randomly watch if it's available but it's far from easy to do so and the team is not inspiring.
 

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I turned the game on for pretty much the first time all year. Bottom 8 down 1, 0 outs with runners on 1st and 3rd and got nothing. That concludes my watching for a while.

I haven't watched yet. I've watched a couple Tigers games to see Javy Baez, and that's been it for my baseballing thus far.
I don't see the Cubs doing a lot to make me change my mind.
 

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Full disclosure: I’m a Cardinal fan but the wife is a Cubs fan so I end up listening to/watching a decent amount of Cubs games.

Does anyone else in here think Pat Hughes’ talents are wasted when he is on tv or is it just me? I think he’s a fantastic announcer and definitely calls a great game on the radio, but obviously you don’t need to be as good to be on TV as you do in a medium where you need to paint a portrait of the game. Just curious to what actual Chicago fans think.
I wouldn't say wasted. Obviously he's great on radio but it's a nice little change of pace when he's on TV. I think Boog is fine but something about him and JD just seems off. But I think it's very likely (for me) that Len and JD were just that good and had such a great chemistry that anyone else seems not as good. Although I do really enjoy when Beth Mowins is on too.
Looks like we are in for another "blah" season while we wait for prospects to develop in the minors. Some takeaways so far:

Biggest surprises:
- Not sure you can call Suzuki a surprise but he looks like he is the real deal. He's cooled off a bit lately but early results are he is a good player
- Happ continues to hit. Hope he can sustain it this time as he is known to be streaky
- Nico Hoerner looking good at SS so far. Not only with the bat but with the glove too. Hope he can stay healthy as doesn't sound like Simmons is anywhere close to playing yet
- The bullpen: 5 guys with ERA under 3.00 and 2 more under 4. Has been pretty god, Robertson hasn't given up a run yet as the closer and Keegan Thompson has been great as the long man. Wick and Effross have looked sharp too.

Disappointments:
- Starting pitching: Smyly is the only one with an ERA under 5 and the top 2 guys Hendricks and Stroman have had their struggles. The rotation was not deep to begin with so really need those 2 guys to step up if they want a shot at a .500 season.
- Schwindel - really thought this guy would be hitting better than .205 right now
- Madrigal - same here, thought he would be a guy hitting closer to .300 and gettin on base near the top of the lineup. Will give him a pass for now since he sat out all last season but he was the big piece in the Kimbrel trade and was expected to be a bigger part of this offense
- Offense in general - outside of Happ, Hoerner, and Suzuki there has not been much to be excited about. Rivas has looked good in a small sample size but Ross hasn't done a great job playing him everyday when he's been up. Wisdom is doing what he usually does. Hit dingers and strike out a lot and don't see that changing so just have to ride the hot and cold streaks.
- Contreras - crazy to think he was almost an afterthought when I was thinking of lists. He hasn't been horrible but hasn't been memorable either. For a guy in a contract year he will need to get hot eventually else just will be another guy the Cubs wind up moving at the deadline and winds up signing for less than expected with his next team.
Don't really disagree with anything but I don't know if I count Schwindel as a disappointment based on my expectations. I realize we're rebuilding but I thought it was stupid to count on Schwindel and Wisdom to be full time guys at the corners for a whole season when neither has ever done it in their career. I'd like to see Rivas get a lot more of Schwindel's time to see what we have there
 

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Don't really disagree with anything but I don't know if I count Schwindel as a disappointment based on my expectations. I realize we're rebuilding but I thought it was stupid to count on Schwindel and Wisdom to be full time guys at the corners for a whole season when neither has ever done it in their career. I'd like to see Rivas get a lot more of Schwindel's time to see what we have there

Schwindel showed some consistency last year as a full time guy than Wisdom did. Did I expect an All-Star 1B? No but I did expect a serviceable 1B with a batting average closer to .300 than .200. I like what I have seen from Rivas so far but Ross is playing the same games Maddon used to do with guys that come up and have a big game then he sits them the next day then starts moving thing around the batting order than just letting them settle into a consistent role. Drives me nuts. When you bring a young guy up from the minors that is playing every day he needs to do the same in the big leagues to get any kind of comfort level.

I said it during the offseason that counting on Wisdom to be an everyday 3B was stupid and they should have acquired one either in trade or free agency. He's a strike out machine, yes he hits some impressive homers but once they traded Bryant away last year and gave Wisdom an extended run his batting average tanked and he was the same washed up guy that couldn't make it with the Cardinals or Rangers.

It's not like the Cubs have great players blocking most of these guys right now. That is what worries me when they think about eventually calling up Davis or possibly even Canario if they fast track him, are they going to platoon them with Heyward or actually let them run with an everyday role? How about any young starting pitchers they decide to look at eventually, are they going to use them out of the bullpen while wasting time with a guy like Alec Mills or are they going to throw them right into the fire and let them work through their mistakes? For as good as Thompson has been as the long man I wish they had just sent him down to Iowa to start the season and let him get stretched out as a starter then called him back up to be in the rotation. Long term I think he could be a good middle of the rotation type of guy but he needs the opportunity to see if he can be a starter or is the bullpen where he is going to be most valuable at. It's obvious this team was not built to win this year so why keep dishing out the playing time to guys that are nothing more than stop-gap players till the young guys are ready when you have a few on the big league roster right now that should be getting that playing time.
 

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I turned the game on for pretty much the first time all year. Bottom 8 down 1, 0 outs with runners on 1st and 3rd and got nothing. That concludes my watching for a while.
Once seiya got an out I turned it off too.
 

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Stroman to the IL, sounds like could be covid related and Schwindel was sent to Iowa so means Rivas should get some run as the everyday 1B. Man the starting pitching is a mess right now. Said it in the offseason they needed to find another veteran for the rotation as they have little for depth and well its definitely biting them right now with all the injuries. It's way too early in the season to be using the bullpen as many innings as they have lately.
 

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Stroman to the IL, sounds like could be covid related and Schwindel was sent to Iowa so means Rivas should get some run as the everyday 1B. Man the starting pitching is a mess right now. Said it in the offseason they needed to find another veteran for the rotation as they have little for depth and well its definitely biting them right now with all the injuries. It's way too early in the season to be using the bullpen as many innings as they have lately.
Meanwhile hermosillo batting under 100 and has 47 errors
 

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That guy was horrible in Des Moines last year, no idea how he made the major league roster.

Eh, he hit .306 with a 1.038 OPS in 43 games with Iowa last year which isn't exactly horrible. Not trying to sell why he is still on the team though but he's not shown us anything thus far in Chicago to be a guy that they can't afford to lose through waivers. If Brennen Davis was hitting the cover off the ball in Iowa right now instead of batting .195 I would guess they would have called him up and cut Hermosillo by now. Not sure what other options other than scouring the free agent scrap heap they have for OF right now as Canario and Velazquez haven't had enough minor league AB year to risk fast tracking them for a team that is not going to compete this year.
 
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Eh, he hit .306 with a 1.038 OPS in 43 games with Iowa last year which isn't exactly horrible. Not trying to sell why he is still on the team though but he's not shown us anything thus far in Chicago to be a guy that they can't afford to lose through waivers. If Brennen Davis was hitting the cover off the ball in Iowa right now instead of batting .195 I would guess they would have called him up and cut Hermosillo by now. Not sure what other options other than scouring the free agent scrap heap they have for OF right now as Canario and Velazquez haven't had enough minor league AB year to risk fast tracking them for a team that is not going to compete this year.
Is Reichman or w/e that guys name is just awful? Deichman maybe?
 

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Eh, he hit .306 with a 1.038 OPS in 43 games with Iowa last year which isn't exactly horrible. Not trying to sell why he is still on the team though but he's not shown us anything thus far in Chicago to be a guy that they can't afford to lose through waivers. If Brennen Davis was hitting the cover off the ball in Iowa right now instead of batting .195 I would guess they would have called him up and cut Hermosillo by now. Not sure what other options other than scouring the free agent scrap heap they have for OF right now as Canario and Velazquez haven't had enough minor league AB year to risk fast tracking them for a team that is not going to compete this year.
Yeah, I guess he hit pretty well overall. I went to a few games last year and didn't think he was a major league talent at all when I saw him at Iowa.

Usually you can spot the major league talent in AAA by the way the ball jumps off their bat, I just didn't get the feeling at all with him.
 

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I'm not sure any team I follow could ever create the anger I feel towards this year's iteration of the Cubs. What an absolute joke. Putting together a team of guys pulled off the scrap pile while claiming poor, all while developing hotels, restaurants and trying to buy an EPL team. Just an absolute joke.

My wife asked if I wanted to get tickets to a game this year. No chance. It's not that I wouldn't love a day at Wrigley, but rather it's not playing into Rickett's obvious theory that people will keep coming no matter how ****** the product on the field is.
 

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I'm not sure any team I follow could ever create the anger I feel towards this year's iteration of the Cubs. What an absolute joke. Putting together a team of guys pulled off the scrap pile while claiming poor, all while developing hotels, restaurants and trying to buy an EPL team. Just an absolute joke.

My wife asked if I wanted to get tickets to a game this year. No chance. It's not that I wouldn't love a day at Wrigley, but rather it's not playing into Rickett's obvious theory that people will keep coming no matter how ****** the product on the field is.
This is kinda where I’m at. I try to get to Wrigley once a year but it’s just not worth the time or money with the current state of the team.
 

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I'm not sure any team I follow could ever create the anger I feel towards this year's iteration of the Cubs. What an absolute joke. Putting together a team of guys pulled off the scrap pile while claiming poor, all while developing hotels, restaurants and trying to buy an EPL team. Just an absolute joke.

My wife asked if I wanted to get tickets to a game this year. No chance. It's not that I wouldn't love a day at Wrigley, but rather it's not playing into Rickett's obvious theory that people will keep coming no matter how ****** the product on the field is.
I know that many fans did not like the Ricketts from the start due to their political stance, but I was willing to give that a pass because I know that some people are not going to align with me on that anyways.

I started to get upset when they were crying poor during the pandemic and started to run the organization like a small market payroll team. They were laying off staff and complaining publicly about financial losses, meanwhile they were buying up a bunch of properties around the stadium and building hotels and such.

Now it seems the organization lacks any positive direction towards success and the owners are okay with poor/mediocre baseball.
 

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I know that many fans did not like the Ricketts from the start due to their political stance, but I was willing to give that a pass because I know that some people are not going to align with me on that anyways.

I started to get upset when they were crying poor during the pandemic and started to run the organization like a small market payroll team. They were laying off staff and complaining publicly about financial losses, meanwhile they were buying up a bunch of properties around the stadium and building hotels and such.

Now it seems the organization lacks any positive direction towards success and the owners are okay with poor/mediocre baseball.

I just think of the level of mismanagement it would take to have a young core of Schwarber, Bryant, Baez, Rizzo, Contreras and Russell and to be where we are now.
 
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I know that many fans did not like the Ricketts from the start due to their political stance, but I was willing to give that a pass because I know that some people are not going to align with me on that anyways.

I started to get upset when they were crying poor during the pandemic and started to run the organization like a small market payroll team. They were laying off staff and complaining publicly about financial losses, meanwhile they were buying up a bunch of properties around the stadium and building hotels and such.

Now it seems the organization lacks any positive direction towards success and the owners are okay with poor/mediocre baseball.

I find it fully possible to hate their baseball work on its own merits.