Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

[Statefan10]

We will revisit this if I'm right

Can we revisit it if you're wrong? lol

 

[Statefan10]

Anyone else notice Austin Ash in the game on the final play? Bizarre lol

I didn't notice that.. Incredible.

 

[GoHawks]

Can we revisit it if you're wrong? lol

Never happened

 

[Statefan10]

Never happened

@ NCST - 121
vs. Louisville - 109
@ Notre Dame - 80
vs. BC - 172
vs. Miami - 66
@ Duke - 12
vs. Georgia Tech - 177
@ Virginia Tech - 41
@ Miami - 66
vs. Duke -12
vs. FSU - 57
@ Louisville - 109

I really don't think it's gonna happen dude lol.

 

[iahawks]

If Iowa wins the games they're supposed to, they likely get 8 more wins which will be 21. With no Q1 wins or possibly 1, you're looking at a play in game at the 11 seed line.

Not if their NET stays in the top 30 or even top 25. I feel they would be a 6-9 seed at that point.

 

[CyPunch]

I didn't notice that.. Incredible.

Keegan should of passed. Austin was wide open!

 

[Statefan10]

Nah, they will be firmly in, the bubble is going to be incredibly weak this year. The ACC looks like a 2 bid league which is insane.

Yeah I didn't think of that. Iowa will get in unless they completely flop against the bad teams they play. I think their season could be predicated on the home game vs. Northwestern and @ Michigan.

 

[Statefan10]

Not if their NET stays in the top 30 or even top 25. I feel they would be a 6-9 seed at that point.

If Iowa gets a 6 seed the system is completely flawed lol. They have one single decent win.

 

[cycloner29]

Keegan should of passed. Austin was wide open!

So was Jorbo!!

 

[carvers4math]

Jordan being the only other true shooter on the team hurt him tremendously too. Keegan is obviously a solid shooter but he's not floating around the 3 point line because that's not his game. When Iowa has multiple shooters on the floor, like last year with CJ, JW and Jordan, now all of a sudden the defense has to account for three threats and must scramble when helping off on Garza. Jordan was able to get a lot of easy looks the last couple of years because of that.

Iowa's going to have a shooting problem again next year too and it'll probably even worse. Sandfort will be better but how much better is the question. Right now he doesn't belong on a P5 court. Then you have Ulis and Perkins who both aren't shooters. Chris Murray is effective from out there but next year he's going to have to play the Keegan role of being around the basket to clean up shots. Having him stand at the 3 point line would be dumb. And then Toussaint just isn't good from out there. So you have Josh Dix and Dasonte Bowen, both freshman who likely won't be ready.

Isn’t one of the twins supposed to be a lottery pick? One would think a player of that ability would draw extra defensive attention.

 

[Statefan10]

Isn’t one of the twins supposed to be a lottery pick? One would think a player of that ability would draw extra defensive attention.

Well he does to an extent, but there's no one else on the Iowa roster that's a true threat from the 3 point line other than Jordan. Kris Murray to an extent, but against good defensive teams he's struggled. So Keegan kicks it out and then what?

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

We will revisit this if I'm right

Nobody is saying that it isn't possible, just that it's a long shot. For every good win opportunity they have, VA will have a bad loss opportunity so it can all offset.

 

[Rabbuk]

Anyone else notice Austin Ash in the game on the final play? Bizarre lol

Gotta play your most talented guards in crunch time.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

If Iowa gets a 6 seed the system is completely flawed lol. They have one single decent win.

The fact that Iowa is currently #25 in Net despite not having a single Q1 win shows that the formula is putting way too much weight into offensive efficiency. In all 4 of their Q4 losses Iowa basically got their lunch handed to them. Ironically offensive efficiency is what has held Iowa States ranking too low.

 

[carvers4math]

The fact that Iowa is currently #25 in Net despite not having a single Q1 win shows that the formula is putting way too much weight into offensive efficiency. In all 4 of their Q4 losses Iowa basically got their lunch handed to them. Ironically offensive efficiency is what has held Iowa States ranking too low.

So JorBo must be wide open to make it? Maybe guy with no defender sets a pick for him or something? Maybe wouldn’t work, he would have to move quickly handling the ball and that might be asking too much I guess.

 

[dafarmer]

And for God sakes Jordan get the damn ball out of your hands when the shot clock is running down. Get it to Keegan or someone who can do something. I've watched damn near every Iowa game this year and there is at least 1 time per game he takes a terrible 3 with an expiring shot clock. Idk if he's trying to be the hero or if he no one else is calling for the ball or what. Figure it out lol

He sure as #### can't pass it to the Mac boys.

 

[Mississippi Clone]

I don't think Jordan will ever play competitive basketball after this year. He is really seeing how hard it is to get a clean look without Garza and Wieskamp demanding all the attention. When he does get a clean look, I think he is too anxious and then misses the few attempts he gets.

I agree, I think the importance of Garza to his success is under appreciated. I saw some discussion on JBo's woes this year on HR and people were trying to justify his playing time saying that having him on the court is still helpful because the other team has to guard him so it opens up the middle. That really didn't make sense, yes they have to guard him but it basically now shuts him down without Garza getting double or triple-teamed and other 3 point shooters to get him open looks. Maybe also the hips are bothering him or he is just in a slump but he shouldn't play nearly as much as he does. Offers little if he isn't hitting 3s (I know Captain Obvious). Be interesting to see if Fran cuts his time substantially, he should but it is Fran.

 

[Statefan10]

The fact that Iowa is currently #25 in Net despite not having a single Q1 win shows that the formula is putting way too much weight into offensive efficiency. In all 4 of their Q4 losses Iowa basically got their lunch handed to them. Ironically offensive efficiency is what has held Iowa States ranking too low.

Yeah their NET ranking is completely inflated. Iowa should realistically be in the 50's or 60's.

 

[Nococy]

The fact that Iowa is currently #25 in Net despite not having a single Q1 win shows that the formula is putting way too much weight into offensive efficiency. In all 4 of their Q4 losses Iowa basically got their lunch handed to them. Ironically offensive efficiency is what has held Iowa States ranking too low.

and we all know who the better team is this year after we spanked them so bad

 

[Statefan10]

and we all know who the better team is this year after we spanked them so bad

Well we are currently rated higher than them in the NET but it's not even about that. It's the fact that their resume is no better than most teams in the 40's, 50's and 60's yet they're 25 because of how the system is calculated. Compare them to say Creighton right? I'd say they're very similar and equal teams. Creighton is 50th and has 3 Q1 wins.