Nichols would hardly say five words when I attended the meets. One time, Nick did get on Nate Carr, who just kept taking down and letting up one of his opponents. Sometime late in the second period, the crowd got quiet and you could hear nick growl "just pin him Nate." Five seconds later, he got the pin. I really don't remember Gable doing anything extremely unreasonable early on in his coaching career.I was too young but don't recall anything like this regarding Harold Nichols or his assistants at a meet. And although Gable carried on, I don't recall it ever to such an extreme.
At a meet, though, what people apparently saw yesterday is just a slightly more extreme version of what has been going on for a long time. Again, Gable engaged in some kinds of this behavior -- but it wasn't to this degree and probably mostly for a good cause -- as in, more directly related to something that happened during the match on the mat.
IMO, this kind of behavior ought to be embarrassing for grown men in their 50s-60s.
Off the mat, there are a lot of stories -- both in Iowa City and in Ames. I'm not old enough or wasn't close enough to know directly ones I've heard regarding Nichols' era. Similarly ones I've heard about the Brands brothers are second hand.
Linked below is the Sports Illustrated article before the 1996 Olympics that talks some about their upbringing in Sheldon. I don't think it talks about it so much in this article, but if I recall, wrestling was a way for them to channel their behavior into something more positive. I am not absolutely positive, but I am almost certain that I met Randy Feekes (pronounced fake-us), who, according to the article, introduced them to the sport. He was younger than me, but older than the Brands, who wouldn't have been wrestling yet. Again, this was a long time ago. But I believe I stayed overnight with a group of wrestlers, with Randy Feekes and his parents, who were really good people, for a freestyle tournament in Sheldon.
WRESTLEMANIA THE BRANDS TWINS, WHO LIVE TO INFLICT PAIN ON THE MAT, ARE ON TRACK FOR THE ATLANTA OLYMPICS
The Benevolent and Loyal Order of Pessimists makes its home inIowa City. Two hundred members strong, the organization holdsits annual meeting as close asvault.si.com
For ISU old-timers, Chuck Jean, who won NCAA titles in 1969 and 1970 -- before he was kicked off the team, and apparently out of school -- recently passed away. RIP, Chuck Jean.
In this article from October, they recount his killing a buck at Ledges State Park on a bet:
Albert Lea's Chuck Jean dies at 72, but leaves tall tales of wrestling lore
Jean was a four-time college champion whose bout with a big buck still has people chuckling in awe.www.startribune.com
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for the media to say that Iowa "dominated" is a complete lie. Winning six matches isn't being dominate. Plus heading into the final match down by five with a chance to win (which became six with the team point taken away), is pretty good for a No. 13 team against a No. 1 team. I think going into the NCAAs, Iowa State could be a top 10 team. And the best indicator Iowa State wrestling is back is the fact that there are 33 pages of posts in Cyclone Fanatic about one wrestling meet.
But the Brands brothers are actually terrible people
Agree. I like the progress the team is making.
Another indicator ISU is back is that the Iowa faithful are in denial/fake ignorance about the Brands bros. and their true character. I believe someone on their board said they had “high moral values” LOL. Also, they are really doubling down on trying to demean our staff.
Very glad we have Kevin Dresser and his staff. Doing a great job.
You are referring to Moriah Marinelli. She makes $43369.56 (in 2020). Iowa State Employee Salaries | Open The Books
You're right I'm sure she only gets paid what they report to the state lol
Unless you have an actual insight into the goings on - supported with at least anecdotal evidence (such as the Marinellis live in a $300,000 condo in University Heights) - I think what you are saying is gossip.
Don't remember which one but I worked in Iowa City for a couple years, and one of the brothers and his wife would stop in somewhat regularly. Acted like he owned the place and walked on water, probably didn't help that my huge Hok fan boss would fawn all over him, too.
Looks like they bought their house for $240k in 2020. Not bad on one income of only $40 grand.
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Rewatched the match, spent the whole time contemplating how ****** in the head their fans have to be to think this is acceptable.
I also just rewatched the match. Kyven Gadson was amazing in his ability to remain cool while being harassed by the Hok knuckleheads. Nobody got in his head even for a moment. His broadcast partner had more trouble than he did.
Iowa wrestlers and their fans, coaches are some of the worst
Some random history I know from legit knowledge and/or personal experience, or from older Iowa grad friends who lived in the U of IA dorms, or adjacent housing
Gable gave them a long lease outside of wrestling--for years.
If a wrestler was arrested or held by police for horrible behavior at the Ped Mall, (for example), the IC/Campus cops were instructed to call Gable first at home so they could avoid charges and he could pick them up.
At 2am, long standing tradition, hoards of bar-goers congregate outside in Ped Mall bars after last-call--. typically the cocky lower weight wrestlers would grapple on their feet in the middle of the crowd, purposely bumping into people, baiting them to object in order to start a rumble.
Wrestlers destroying their apartments.
Wrestlers hazing younger teammates in the dorms.--Rico Chiparelli in the 80's, physically terrorized and abused some of them in the
Friends even working food service@ Hillcrest dorm---hated the U of Iowa wrestlers
Iowa wrestling hosting an annual summer picnic at a booster's farm, complete with girls and naked volleyball (with appearances by the head coaches.) .~ can you imagine this happening today? LOL
Tom Brands was kicked off the team his senior yr in HS for 'training' a girl w/ his friend....and never had remorse for his actions
just tip of the iceberg. I remember attending a Cael Sanderson meet vs Iowa @ Hilton with reserved ticketed seating
The lowlife Iowa fans entered and just sat whatever they wanted, and looked like idiots as dozens of them were booted from their hijacked seats
Some random history I know from legit knowledge and/or personal experience, or from older Iowa grad friends who lived in the U of IA dorms, or adjacent housing
Gable gave them a long lease outside of wrestling--for years.
If a wrestler was arrested or held by police for horrible behavior at the Ped Mall, (for example), the IC/Campus cops were instructed to call Gable first at home so they could avoid charges and he could pick them up.
At 2am, long standing tradition, hoards of bar-goers congregate outside in Ped Mall bars after last-call--. typically the cocky lower weight wrestlers would grapple on their feet in the middle of the crowd, purposely bumping into people, baiting them to object in order to start a rumble.
Wrestlers destroying their apartments.
Wrestlers hazing younger teammates in the dorms.--Rico Chiparelli in the 80's, physically terrorized and abused some of them in the
Friends even working food service@ Hillcrest dorm---hated the U of Iowa wrestlers
Iowa wrestling hosting an annual summer picnic at a booster's farm, complete with girls and naked volleyball (with appearances by the head coaches.) .~ can you imagine this happening today? LOL
Tom Brands was kicked off the team his senior yr in HS for 'training' a girl w/ his friend....and never had remorse for his actions
just tip of the iceberg. I remember attending a Cael Sanderson meet vs Iowa @ Hilton with reserved ticketed seating
The lowlife Iowa fans entered and just sat whatever they wanted, and looked like idiots as dozens of them were booted from their hijacked seats
the story goes when Gable was hired in the mid-70's @ Iowa, industrial magnate Roy Carver donated $6 million to the wrestling team. (Like giving $40 million today to the ISU FB team from Gridiron Club)
They also had use of Carver's jet for recruiting
These funds and amenities sent Iowa wrestling into orbit and they never looked back--unfortunately for us
As a banker in a past life, it’s likely they didn’t buy the house with their own funds (down payment). It’s pretty common amongst millennials and the younger crowd to live in homes purchased with down payments funded largely by their parents or grandparents. I’m sure other income streams exist though.
I have a cousin whose paternal grandfather purchased his 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan. A prime example of white the privilege and generational wealth that exists in cities like that
wasn't Iowa down two guys? Because of that getting close is like fools good. I think the best thing we can take away is our guys fight and attitude toward this meet. For years, that has been missing.
