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I heard from a good friends barber, who heard it from his sisters maid, that MC is going to Miami and Messingham will be our next Head coach. And that Tom Herman will be his OC. :rolleyes:
 
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I heard from a good friends barber, who heard it from his sisters maid, that MC is going to Miami and Messingham will be our next Head coach. And that Tom Herman will be his OC. :rolleyes:
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No. And when I was a kid in the 90s I remember old people talking about Navy being a national power 30 years ago. You may as well have been talking about the 1800s.

Those of us that remember Nebraska being a national power need to first realize that all the advantages Osborne used are gone and are never coming back. We also need to understand that kids being recruited now have no memories of Nebraska being a national power.
Nebraska’s ceiling now is Iowa, maybe Wisconsin.
I don’t even think Nebraska’s ceiling is as high as Iowa and no where near as high as Wisconsin.
 

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I don’t even think Nebraska’s ceiling is as high as Iowa and no where near as high as Wisconsin.
Agreed. Nebraska punched WAY above its weight for 40 years for a number of reasons but those advantages are all gone now - first program to invest in a serious S&C program, no scholarship limits in 60s and 70s, huge walk-on program stocked with in-state kids who all grew up dreaming of playing for the Huskers and running NU’s offense, dominant running game that opponents caught up to with scheme and personnel, nearly exclusive TV coverage, facilities. Frost is going to be fired and if the next coach doesn’t get it done then I think we’ll see attendance erode and their one remaining advantage will be diluted. If there’s a day when 60,000 people show up in 90,000 seat Memorial Stadium you can put a fork in them.
 

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Agreed. Nebraska punched WAY above its weight for 40 years for a number of reasons but those advantages are all gone now - first program to invest in a serious S&C program, no scholarship limits in 60s and 70s, huge walk-on program stocked with in-state kids who all grew up dreaming of playing for the Huskers and running NU’s offense, dominant running game that opponents caught up to with scheme and personnel, nearly exclusive TV coverage, facilities. Frost is going to be fired and if the next coach doesn’t get it done then I think we’ll see attendance erode and their one remaining advantage will be diluted. If there’s a day when 60,000 people show up in 90,000 seat Memorial Stadium you can put a fork in them.

This got me thinking about S&C training back in the day. Hard to imagine that weight training was somewhat cutting edge in the 1980s.

Old article with some Nebraska weight training comments. Different era, kids.

 
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Agreed. Nebraska punched WAY above its weight for 40 years for a number of reasons but those advantages are all gone now - first program to invest in a serious S&C program, no scholarship limits in 60s and 70s, huge walk-on program stocked with in-state kids who all grew up dreaming of playing for the Huskers and running NU’s offense, dominant running game that opponents caught up to with scheme and personnel, nearly exclusive TV coverage, facilities. Frost is going to be fired and if the next coach doesn’t get it done then I think we’ll see attendance erode and their one remaining advantage will be diluted. If there’s a day when 60,000 people show up in 90,000 seat Memorial Stadium you can put a fork in them.

NIL is changing everything. Does the NU community have the alumni and financial backing to put together one of those big $$$ NIL consortiums like the UT community did? If they do, NU will be able to attract good recruits with NIL, and though the NIL consortiums are officially independent from the university, potential new head coaches will know they exist. It will be just like the old Osborne days, except the money flow will be legal.
 
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Nebraska’s ceiling is way higher than Iowa’s. They are finishing up one of the top football facilities in the country. They have a trophy room that makes Iowa’s look like a joke. Those trophies have a lot of dust on them but they still have them. They are the only school in the state. They have a huge budget and with the future of the NIL, revenue is going to be one of the most important things. They just haven’t made a good coaching hire. Maybe they will continue to make bad hires, I hope so, but the right coach could make Nebraska really good. Not crazy good like they were, but better than Iowa good.
 
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NIL is changing everything. Does the NU community have the alumni and financial backing to put together one of those big $$$ NIL consortiums like the UT community did? If they do, NU. They'll be able to attract good recruits with NIL, and though the NIL consortiums are officially independent from the university, potential new head coaches will know they exist. It will be just like the old Osborne days, except the money flow will be legal.
Remember the kid that decommitted from Texas, changed his status, skipped his senior year of high school and signed with Ohio State because he was chasing NIL money?

His name is in the transfer portal.
 
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Nebraska’s ceiling is way higher than Iowa’s. They are finishing up one of the top football facilities in the country. They have a trophy room that makes Iowa’s look like a joke. Those trophies have a lot of dust on them but they still have them. They are the only school in the state. They have a huge budget and with the future of the NIL, revenue is going to be one of the most important things. They just haven’t made a good coaching hire. Maybe they will continue to make bad hires, I hope so, but the right coach could make Nebraska really good. Not crazy good like they were, but better than Iowa good.
The only team in the state thing doesn’t help that much in a state like Nebraska. For example In the 2021 class Nebraska had 5 kids rated as an 87 or higher. Iowa had 11. Also fun fact, New York had 2.
 

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NIL is changing everything. Does the NU community have the alumni and financial backing to put together one of those big $$$ NIL consortiums like the UT community did? If they do, NU will be able to attract good recruits with NIL, and though the NIL consortiums are officially independent from the university, potential new head coaches will know they exist. It will be just like the old Osborne days, except the money flow will be legal.
Without the steroids?
 

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The only team in the state thing doesn’t help that much in a state like Nebraska. For example In the 2021 class Nebraska had 5 kids rated as an 87 or higher. Iowa had 11. Also fun fact, New York had 2.
Being the only thing in the state isn’t just about HS football players. It’s about fan support and future revenue. I think revenue is going to be huge part of the future. The NIL and transfer rule has opened a gateway that basically allows schools to pay for the players they need. It’s not headed in a very good direction but Nebraska has the resources to take advantage of it and if they hired the right coach they could raise crazy money. Hopefully they will just continue to make bad decisions.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Agreed. Nebraska punched WAY above its weight for 40 years for a number of reasons but those advantages are all gone now - first program to invest in a serious S&C program, no scholarship limits in 60s and 70s, huge walk-on program stocked with in-state kids who all grew up dreaming of playing for the Huskers and running NU’s offense, dominant running game that opponents caught up to with scheme and personnel, nearly exclusive TV coverage, facilities. Frost is going to be fired and if the next coach doesn’t get it done then I think we’ll see attendance erode and their one remaining advantage will be diluted. If there’s a day when 60,000 people show up in 90,000 seat Memorial Stadium you can put a fork in them.
Their walk on program needs some clarification. Worked with a husker who graduated around 1980. Their walk on program was extremely aided by one thing. At that time, each county in Nebraska had a scholarship that was given to one of their in county kids to attend Nebraska, but they had to play football. So they were technically a walk on but being funded to go to NU and specifically play football. Not really a true walk on program.
 

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Agreed. Nebraska punched WAY above its weight for 40 years for a number of reasons but those advantages are all gone now - first program to invest in a serious S&C program, no scholarship limits in 60s and 70s, huge walk-on program stocked with in-state kids who all grew up dreaming of playing for the Huskers and running NU’s offense, dominant running game that opponents caught up to with scheme and personnel, nearly exclusive TV coverage, facilities. Frost is going to be fired and if the next coach doesn’t get it done then I think we’ll see attendance erode and their one remaining advantage will be diluted. If there’s a day when 60,000 people show up in 90,000 seat Memorial Stadium you can put a fork in them.

Don’t forget accepting partial qualifiers. The “walk on” program was also a sham in the 80s and early 90s. Plenty of instate “walk ons” had creative scholarships that weren’t attached to the school before all types of scholarships were counted.
 

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The only team in the state thing doesn’t help that much in a state like Nebraska. For example In the 2021 class Nebraska had 5 kids rated as an 87 or higher. Iowa had 11. Also fun fact, New York had 2.
It doesn't get much press, but Campbell has been working with Iowa High Schools helping them improve their programs. As long as he stays here, I expect the number and quality of football players from Iowa will be increasing. The man is definitely tending to his own garden with an eye to the future.
 

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Nebraska’s ceiling is way higher than Iowa’s. They are finishing up one of the top football facilities in the country. They have a trophy room that makes Iowa’s look like a joke. Those trophies have a lot of dust on them but they still have them. They are the only school in the state. They have a huge budget and with the future of the NIL, revenue is going to be one of the most important things. They just haven’t made a good coaching hire. Maybe they will continue to make bad hires, I hope so, but the right coach could make Nebraska really good. Not crazy good like they were, but better than Iowa good.

Nebraska's ceiling right now is bowl eligibility.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Also, don’t forget the buying of players. Talk to 70s/80s recruits and see what they were offered. Know a guy who was recruited and offered a car if he came.
 

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Their walk on program needs some clarification. Worked with a husker who graduated around 1980. Their walk on program was extremely aided by one thing. At that time, each county in Nebraska had a scholarship that was given to one of their in county kids to attend Nebraska, but they had to play football. So they were technically a walk on but being funded to go to NU and specifically play football. Not really a true walk on program.
I learned about that by hearing people talk and putting the pieces together when I moved to Omaha in 97.
 

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I heard from a good friends barber, who heard it from his sisters maid, that MC is going to Miami and Messingham will be our next Head coach. And that Tom Herman will be his OC. :rolleyes:
huh. I heard they are bringing back Mangino since he worked out so well the first time.