TCU has to be in a tough spot with Patterson, right?

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I picked ISU to beat oSu in my pool. The Clones are the better team. But please save me the official errors whines henceforth. That bell rings quite hollow after Saturday.

You make a good point. I can't believe Oklahoma State had an easy touchdown that was called back to the 18 yard line for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty that is almost universally regarded as one of the worst calls of all time. That was a huge benefit to ISU on Saturday!
 
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Yes, give it a break. Remember that in the future.

You do understand the officials were doing ISU no favors by not penalizing the OSU lineman for pulling him forward? The fact he didn't pull him far enough made the job impossible for the officials. So make no mistake, they were trying. Maybe not as hard as the crew in the pick up flags for Bill Snyder "farewell" game a few years ago.....but they were trying.
 
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I picked ISU to beat oSu in my pool. The Clones are the better team. But please save me the official errors whines henceforth. That bell rings quite hollow after Saturday.
For the record I don't think ISU has gotten screwed overall this year by officiating, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. Certainly one EXTREMELY close call going our way is not evidence of that, especially when there was a universally agreed upon horrible judgment call earlier in the game that took a touchdown off the board. The refs didn't do us any favors in that game. Go **** yourself Surly. I am so going to love watching the downfall of your program.
 

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Surly unless I missed it you still haven’t referenced the call that was completely BS that ISU got the benefit of where we shouldn’t be “whining” anymore.

If it is indeed that final play, that is the weirdest hill to die on here as it’s been shown the OSU guy clearly pulling the ball carrier, which is illegal. That and watching again I still don’t think he even made it with the pull. Way too close. So unless you have something else we are missing please leave.
 
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My comments about ISU fans' constant whining are factual, while the Ron Prince post couldn't stand a two-year-old's examination.
Ron Prince has been the Big 12 Title game while at K-State. Chris Klieman hasn't.

Ron Prince never lost to a Sunbelt team while at K-State. Chris Klieman has.
 

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Ron Prince has been the Big 12 Title game while at K-State. Chris Klieman hasn't.

Ron Prince never lost to a Sunbelt team while at K-State. Chris Klieman has.
I think Kleiman is astronomically better at knowing how to run a program than Ron Prince was. Having said that I do think Kleiman better shake the staff up or something before it get's completely out from under him. It's to that point.
 
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I think Kleiman is astronomically better at knowing how to run a program than Ron Prince was. Having said that I do think Kleiman better shake the staff up or something before it get's completely out from under him. It's to that point.
For what it's worth, I think Klieman is better. But surly came in here trolling Iowa State fans so I'm returning the favor.