John Deere strike imminent?

simply1

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I cut and welded a real nice tool box in high school, sounds like I could make sone big bucks building tractors on the weekend!
 

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I keep seeing this being said. And I get it. But also, all major manufacturers are having an awful time trying to get parts to build their product. Deere would be no different. Maybe Deere is enjoying the free, temporary layoff while the supply chain sorts itself out

Both sides may think they have the upper hand. And this could go a while...

Problem for Deere (at least in Ankeny) is these machines are build to order. So every machines have been paid for
 

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Building a car is a whole lot easier than repairing a car. You're asking people to do a repetitive task not build it from start to finish. If it were rocket science they probably wouldn't have been waiving the high school diploma requirement at the job fairs this summer.

When they hire these people they are trained to do the jobs and then certified by the trainers and engineers. Every single trainers are on the picket line. And the reason deere has had to advertise and do job fairs are because they are no longer competitive with their compensation. They have drastically lowered their standards.
 
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I shouldn't talk. I took the scenic route in college. Changed my major after 3 years but finished the second one up relatively quickly.

That's why I'm just Sigma and she's Dr. Sigma.
 
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Problem for Deere (at least in Ankeny) is these machines are build to order. So every machines have been paid for

They don't pay for them until they take possession of the unit. The orders originate from the dealerships, the customers pay the dealers, not the factory.
 

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They don't pay for them until they take possession of the unit. The orders originate from the dealerships, the customers pay the dealers, not the factory.

You’re probably right but either way the machines have a deadline for delivery. I know the goal this run was 22 sprayers a day. Record amount.
 

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You’re probably right but either way the machines have a deadline for delivery. I know the goal this run was 22 sprayers a day. Record amount.

Correct, but at this point the customer hasn't even signed a contract. All orders from factories come from dealerships. Dealers don't pay the factories until they take possession either. Right now it's just a holding pattern basically for the entire business.
 

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Correct, but at this point the customer hasn't even signed a contract. All orders from factories come from dealerships. Dealers don't pay the factories until they take possession either. Right now it's just a holding pattern basically for the entire business.

I see what you’re saying. I guess the point I was trying to make was that the strike is not only going to hurt the UAW workers, it’s going to cost Deere too. These machines are preordered (Even if it’s not paid for yet)
 

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I see what you’re saying. I guess the point I was trying to make was that the strike is not only going to hurt the UAW workers, it’s going to cost Deere too. These machines are preordered (Even if it’s not paid for yet)

Oh for sure. Considering this is probably the best year ever for Deere I'm guessing it changes the tenor moving in to year end and the outlook for 2022 pretty soundly too. It hurts everybody which is why as soon as they can come to an agreement it would be a good thing.
 
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Not only would you have to be certified as a welder but you would need hundreds of welders for all the different parts. A few people cannot do it by themselves. Like you said It’s not same as welding in your garage as a hobby. There’s a thing called osha that deere would have to abide by too.

I've been in enough State buildings and offices to see that OSHA doesn't matter.
 

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My nephew is a member in afscme in Des Moines and has stated similar views. I told him to run for office and make the changes needed. The state of Iowa has to take some of the blame when they attempted to gut collective bargaining rights. Luckily, I belonged to a Federal Union.
 

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My nephew is a member in afscme in Des Moines and has stated similar views. I told him to run for office and make the changes needed. The state of Iowa has to take some of the blame when they attempted to gut collective bargaining rights. Luckily, I belonged to a Federal Union.
The state didn't just attempt to gut CB, they did gut collective bargaining without giving us back the right to strike. Gov. Ray would be spinning in his grave if we saw what his own party is doing to the state of Iowa.
 
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Correct, but at this point the customer hasn't even signed a contract. All orders from factories come from dealerships. Dealers don't pay the factories until they take possession either. Right now it's just a holding pattern basically for the entire business.
The way Deere does business today is that a machine will not be scheduled for production without the order and financing already in place. Cotton harvesters are $1 million or more and Sprayers are probably $300,000 to $500,000 plus. You don’t build that price of machine on speculation hoping someone will buy it like was done in the 1980’s.
 

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The way Deere does business today is that a machine will not be scheduled for production without the order and financing already in place. Cotton harvesters are $1 million or more and Sprayers are probably $300,000 to $500,000 plus. You don’t build that price of machine on speculation hoping someone will buy it like was done in the 1980’s.

This is what I also thought cause the machines are built to a customer’s specifications. I just wasn’t 100 % positive on the financing of it. I’m sure there is at least a huge deposit of some kind.
 

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