Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

ForeverIowan

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Totally agree, it's all a big unknown. I just don't see a situation where the B1G is going to expand in a way where it works with the Pac and ACC to make sure everything is equitable and everyone is happy. If it's going to be better for the B1G coffers to go after USC, Oregon, UCLA, Washington, I don't think they're going to not do that just so it can to grow in sync with the Pac and ACC.

The University Presidents and ADs need to sit down and hammer this damn thing out with the below items in mind:

1.) Split from the NCAA. There will be more money for everyone involved.
2.) It won't be good for the sport to alienate dozens of fanbases and millions of fans around the country. Form a 64ish team super league and hire a commisioner.
3.) Figure out the profit sharing. Pretty damn clear we can all agree Iowa State doesn't currently deserve the same piece of the pie as Texas. Vanderbilt shouldn't be earning the same revenue as Bama. We got it. Figure out the profit sharing to keep all parties happy and form an agreement to reevaluate on an ongoing basis.

It truly shouldn't be that hard. Figure it out!
 

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There are currently 66 P5 teams (this includes ND). So which current P5 school bows out? Baylor?
Wake Forest, Baylor, Duke, Washington St, Oregon St, Rutgers, Kansas St, Vanderbilt, maybe Georgia Tech…….several come to mind before ISU. I could see Kansas and Duke going to an elite basketball conference. Kansas football more or less exists now because football tix are required to buy basketball tix.
 

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As long as we end up in one of the three conferences, make us a treaty ***** :D



I honestly think it's ND to the ACC or working around their independence. I just don't ever see ND to the Big 10 ever happening to this point - bridges have been burned to the point where I think they're irreparable between the two parties. ND doesn't even have its annual rivalry games with UM and MSU anymore. Yes, they still have their annual game with Purdue and they did schedule Wisconsin this year, but beyond Purdue, anything scheduled with the Big 10 seems to be on a case-by-case basis. Ever since ND allied itself with the ACC the only people that think ND to the Big 10 is still a thing are those that have their heads stuck in the 1990s. At this point the only way I ever see ND in the Big 10 is if CFB devolves to the point where only the Big 10 and SEC are the remaining superconferences.


Agree. Notre Dame will join the ACC, or stay independent. They will NEVER join the Big 10. They'll join the SEC before they join the Big 10.
 

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I don't blame you for being salty.

Iowa gets the same $$$ payout as OSU, Mich, PSU.

I've said from the start I hope ISU stays in a P5 conference and would like it if they got a B1G invite because it's better for the state and it'd be fun to be conference rivals.

there’s no salt, it’s laughing at your arrogance thinking you have any more say as to what happens to Iowa as Iowa State does in their conference.

Rather than pretend you’re equals, and protect typical big 10 nonsense, be grateful the schools that matter in your league are currently satisfied with their arrangement.
 
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scyclonekid

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Breaking away from the NCAA to form this 16+ super conferences will take a lot of time unless those in the know are fast tracking this. If super conferences happen Iowa state will be at the table. I also like the revenue to be in football paid on performance like another poster said like the golf model. Doing it this way ensures that hey you want more money then win more games.
 

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do not like the golf model at all. One golfer, 85 scholarship players, one guy can control so much more than a whole football team and staff. It would seem those with more money will just get better and better because they keep winning, would have an easier time winning because they have more money. Other than donor money, the sport should set up equal opportunity and should be striving for parity. Every league should have the same number of teams. Every league should get the exact same tv payout, and every league should play the same number of conference games. Right now, the above is all over the board and needs to get fixed otherwise we are in for more chaos in the coming years.
 

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1. SEC currently sits at 16 teams

2. ACC adds Notre Dame and West Virginia to form a 16 team conference.

3. Big Ten adds Iowa State and Kansas to form a 16 team conference.

4. Pac 12 adds four of these teams to form a 16 team conference: Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, BYU.

If the ultimate goal and requirement for these four conferences is to get to 16 teams and split from the NCAA and hire a commissioner this seems like the logical end result. Nothing about all of this has been logical however so it is anyone's best guess.
Why? ND doesn't need to make any moves.
 

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Wouldn't it be nice to see a pay for performance model. Your payout is based on your W/L or standings in the 64. #1 gets a set amount, #64 gets a set amont. Tier the distribution similar to a major golf tournament?
At first I liked this idea, however, some form of 'parity' needs to be built into any league.
 
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Wouldn't it be nice to see a pay for performance model. Your payout is based on your W/L or standings in the 64. #1 gets a set amount, #64 gets a set amont. Tier the distribution similar to a major golf tournament?
This is a terrible idea. The gap between Alabama, Clemson, etc. and the rest of the field would only become even larger than it is today if they got even more money
 

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there’s no salt, it’s laughing at your arrogance thinking you have any more say as to what happens to Iowa as Iowa State does in their conference.

Rather than pretend you’re equals, and protect typical big 10 nonsense, be grateful the schools that matter in your league are currently satisfied with their arrangement.

Well $$$ is the name of the game and in that area, we are equals.
 
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Cyclones1969

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Well $$$ is the name of the game and in that area, we are equals.

when you’re allowed to be equals by other people, you’re not equal.

this is ridiculous and typical hawk fan mental gymnastics. You should strive to be better than ricky rudd, unless that’s who you really are
 

CascadeClone

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The University Presidents and ADs need to sit down and hammer this damn thing out with the below items in mind:

1.) Split from the NCAA. There will be more money for everyone involved.
2.) It won't be good for the sport to alienate dozens of fanbases and millions of fans around the country. Form a 64ish team super league and hire a commisioner.
3.) Figure out the profit sharing. Pretty damn clear we can all agree Iowa State doesn't currently deserve the same piece of the pie as Texas. Vanderbilt shouldn't be earning the same revenue as Bama. We got it. Figure out the profit sharing to keep all parties happy and form an agreement to reevaluate on an ongoing basis.

It truly shouldn't be that hard. Figure it out!

You mean like, pool the FB and BB contracts, but let each school have it's own 3rd tier rights? What a fantastic idea.

Truthfully, I always thought that was one reason that OuT would stay in the Big12 - they got to keep their 3rd tier rights money which captured their incremental value vs the smaller schools. Guess it wasn't enough.

Someone said in one of the threads that maybe you equally share 75% of the TV money, and take the other 25% and distribute it based on prime appearances or ratings or something like that. Not a bad idea. You are rewarding both interest and success, so the name brands get a little more, but a smaller name having a good run (e.g. ISU) would not be shut out either.