Yep. And just because you graduated from a school doesn’t mean you’re a fan of that team. Million different reasons to pick a college other than their athletics. I know multiple ISU grads that are big Iowa fans.
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It wouldn’t affect it at all. People awarding grants probably have no Clue what sports conference a school is in. Half the time they can’t keep straight what school a professor is from. Big 10 gets a ton of research because it’s got a bunch huge schools that have some great programs in a variety of fields. If Michigan and K State swapped conferences it wouldn’t change the funding fortunes of either.
That data covers the years 2015-2019, so that data would include 2 seasons that we went 3-9 in 2015 and 2016. To say that we are today, where we were in those years is completely wrong. ISU is much more valuable today than it was 6 short years ago, and that is because of winning more games.
Anyone that thinks that conferences and TV executives are using this data is crazy. You using the data to show your bias towards ISU.
I would love to see the same data from 2017-2020 or 2018-20.
Left out as in left out of the merger of the conferences. I agree that your outcome mentioned is plausible and would be the 2nd worst case scenario outside of us joining the AAC.
Hasn’t it been stated several times that ISU’s TV numbers were more than half a million more per game than Iowa’s and Nebraska’s last year? ISU’s TV advantage will probably be much greater this year, and Iowa is in serious jeopardy with the racism trial starting in February 2023. It wouldn’t surprise me if ISU dominates Iowa in TV viewership for the foreseeable future. I don’t think the TV networks and streaming services will be looking at 2015-2018 numbers when evaluating ISU. Long term ISU could easily be a much more valuable TV asset than Iowa, with it’s proximity to Des Moines and burgeoning national appeal under Campbell (see the Alamo and Fiesta Bowl ratings). Iowa has little national appeal right now and it’s about to get worse.
Campbell said it best on media day. Winning will make kids want to come here, likewise with the TV entities. Iowa’s advantage is that they’re already in the Big 10, and that’s it. ISU is easily a top 30 media value long term and that should keep them in whatever the top tier is 5-10 years from now. I Iiterally just walked through Jack Trice and around the SPC tonight, that ain’t a lower division operation.
You see TV ratings from last year? Any difference in national brand between Iowa and ISU is so insignificant you could swap ISU into the Big 10 for Iowa and nobody outside the conference would give a ****. Iowa is a nice program with decent recognition. But all that matters in the Big 10 is OSU, Michigan and PSU. Nobody else matters. Is it better to have Iowa than Wake Forest? Sure. But you swap in any number of reasonable power conference type teams with the big three and the leagues value isn’t changing beyond the margins.
It has. And it’s the opposite of cherry-picking, not that some dim bulb hawk fan would understand the term. We’ve chopped up the numbers every way possible, and if TV viewership means anything, ISU is in good shape.
Research grants have absolutely nothing to do with football. Not one iota. Enrollment has a relatively weak correlation with power 5 status. It’s actually cost of tuition that has the biggest impact. Will our athletics department suffer? Absolutely. We will have to pause all facilities upgrades and won’t be able to keep Campbell and crew. Recruiting will suffer. But ISU academics will not take a hit.
I’m as big of a Debbie Downer as there is, but even I think this is crap.
Key takeaway I have is no other conferences want any of the B12 schools. That signals to us that we have to start formulating a plan for life in the “G5”. Donation increases? More sponsorships? Booze at games? All of it needs to be explored.
The funny part is the talking about cherry picking and then using those numbers. If you understand the media deals and how the conferences work and what they did with the numbers, those are the most cherry picked numbers you could get.
Sure it would. Their profs would still be able to get research grants, but without the shared resources and collaborative research partnerships their competitive funding would absolutely take a hit.
The BTAA isn't about a "sports conference". $10.5 billion in funded research to member schools. It's about collaboration, partnerships and shared resources across schools.
The link you shared boasts the BTAA’s major achievements as licensing classroom software at scale and sharing library resources - things that have zero to do with research, where the big money is. That $10.5B would be the same across those 14 schools whether or not they had an alliance of any kind.
I think the insecurity is coming from the other direction. I already said there’s plenty of potential for growth if ISU is invited into the Big 10. I referred to the other schools in the original post mostly because of the disparity in the Big 12 tv contract, yet some people choose to be sensitive about it.
I’m also not sure why anyone clings to the enrollment numbers. They’re meaningless but seems to be a weird fixation for some. UCF is the largest university in Florida but it’s hardly the flagship school. As for facilities, I’ll let other people argue that one.
Sharing resources and a highly updated infrastructure is all about being part of an elite research consortium. I think you’re way off base here.
Lol. No, it wouldn't. Being aligned absolutely impacts the ridiculous amount of funding they receive. Just look at the growth of PSU research funding after joining.
So we should see Nebraska rocketing up the charts relative to its non-B1G peers over the last decade? Of course, this didn’t happen.
It’s actually that you’re really insecure, and you show it with every post.
and you’re wrong about yet something else. You should stop.
