Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

[BCClone]

Those two are apparently too dumb to read the article and understand how the media rights screw with the numbers.

 

[BCClone]

The number of students applying to a school has little to do with its academic reputation. Sure success in sports can have a direct impact on the number of butts in seats, see Boise St. after they beat OU, their apps skyrocketed. But that doesn't have much of anything to do with the academic reputation, because they're still probably accepting students at the same rate. Acceptance rate has a lot more to do with how a school's academics are perceived.

Or the requirements that the board of regents does or does not set for a school.

 

[AuH2O]

It doesn’t for most schools but football success has indirectly impacted Alabama’s academic reputation with more students applying there from non traditional areas and alumni support. It lends visibility and credibility to large state universities. Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins etc are in an entirely different category.

No. It has zero impact. At most you get some more undergrads, a small percentage of which even go to grad school, let alone have any impact on research dollars.

Conference means zero in research. Football means zero in research. People need to grasp this. Athletics budgets are a small part of overall university revenues. There’s a reason there are a lot of universities pumping money into their ADs and almost no ADs pumping money back into teaching or research.

 

[Gonzo]

No. It has zero impact. At most you get some more undergrads, a small percentage of which even go to grad school, let alone have any impact on research dollars.

Conference means zero in research. Football means zero in research. People need to grasp this. Athletics budgets are a small part of overall university revenues. There’s a reason there are a lot of universities pumping money into their ADs and almost no ADs pumping money back into teaching or research.

The BTAA means a lot to member university research revenue, and it's driven by conference affiliation.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Dennis Dodd knows as much on this stuff as us. The guy has literally not broken any of the news on any of this.

 

[trajanJ]

Plus Dodd is a Mizzou guy.

 

[mattyheiden]

Trying to pretend Iowa has any sort of National appeal

They do, there’s no getting around it. They’re not Alabama but play in a league with some of the strongest alumni networks in the country and favorable TV exposure.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Honorable, but read the "snowcraig2.0" post above yours. It likely represents the casual ISU fan and on my side as well if good fortune were to fall our way. There would be a sigh of relief followed by much chest-thumping (we're not in their low class), and we'd move on with fond memories.

There are NO sides here, we are all ISU fans, and want the best for the university. Some think the best path is to keep the conference going and add teams from the AAC. Others, and I am one think that it would be best for us to end up in the Big 10. then the Pac 12, and the worst that could happen is a reformed Big 12. Simple reason is the money will not be there if that happens.

But in the end, we are ALL for ISU, and there are no sides!

 

[HawaiiClone]

It's time for Bob Bowlsby to go on air and plainly state the good attributes of the Big 8. I'm talking about the competitiveness (current or past), the passionate fans and the level of commitment in the athletic departments. I live in Mountain West country and I can tell you those are significant attributes that for the most part aren't at the same level here. It would deflect the hyperbolically negative narrative that I hear in the national media.

 

[mattyheiden]

No. It has zero impact. At most you get some more undergrads, a small percentage of which even go to grad school, let alone have any impact on research dollars.

Conference means zero in research. Football means zero in research. People need to grasp this. Athletics budgets are a small part of overall university revenues. There’s a reason there are a lot of universities pumping money into their ADs and almost no ADs pumping money back into teaching or research.

I don’t think you’re quite grasping this topic.

 

[Cyclones1969]

They do, there’s no getting around it. They’re not Alabama but play in a league with some of the strongest alumni networks in the country and favorable TV exposure.

Just quit, you’re embarrassing yourself.

by your logic, Iowa is only watched when other teams have appeal.

remember the record low ratings for the Orange bowl against Georgia tech? Fed ex did, that’s why they stopped sponsorship

 

[Cyclones1969]

No. It has zero impact. At most you get some more undergrads, a small percentage of which even go to grad school, let alone have any impact on research dollars.

Conference means zero in research. Football means zero in research. People need to grasp this. Athletics budgets are a small part of overall university revenues. There’s a reason there are a lot of universities pumping money into their ADs and almost no ADs pumping money back into teaching or research.

These guys are literally thinking that if, and when, the 3 schools that matter in the big 10 get tired of supplementing the rest of the schools athletic departments and join the Disney league, the research endowments will suddenly disappear.

Imagine how little understanding of life they truly have to have.

 

[Cyclones1969]

It's time for Bob Bowlsby to go on air and plainly state the good attributes of the Big 8. I'm talking about the competitiveness (current or past), the passionate fans and the level of commitment in the athletic departments. I live in Mountain West country and I can tell you those are significant attributes that for the most part aren't at the same level here. It would deflect the hyperbolically negative narrative that I hear in the national media.

Ffs, there’s pending potential litigation.

quit letting loser hawk trolls, who have no concept of anything, make you think that planted articles, and incompetent sources mean anything. People like Heiden and the other loser are here to troll, in order to fill some of inadequacies, mental and otherwise, they have

when someone says Iowa is a National program, they show right there they have absolutely no clue, and have lived their lives only in Iowa.

 

[mattyheiden]

Just quit, you’re embarrassing yourself.

by your logic, Iowa is only watched when other teams have appeal.

remember the record low ratings for the Orange bowl against Georgia tech? Fed ex did, that’s why they stopped sponsorship

No reason to be in denial.

 

[Cyclones1969]

No reason to be in denial.

then stop.

You said you supposedly graduated from Iowa state. You’re embarrassing the entirety of the alumni.

you’re really clueless about this stuff. I’m sure it’s just scratching the surface of how little you understand.

 

[Statefan10]

Hate to break it to the Hawk troll’s here, but the largest school in the state that has the best facilities and a growing football program isn’t going to be left out at the end of all this. Find a new schtick because trying to claim that you or any of these journalists know anything at this point is ridiculous.

 

[BCClone]

Hate to break it to the Hawk troll’s here, but the largest school in the state that has the best facilities and a growing football program isn’t going to be left out at the end of all this. Find a new schtick because trying to claim that you or any of these journalists know anything at this point is ridiculous.

I just can’t fathom how insecure some fans can be to come on here and pretend to be clone fans when they are Hawkeye fans. Be proud of who you are. Why gonzo and dex hang around, at least they are true to their fandom.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

The BTAA means a lot to member university research revenue, and it's driven by conference affiliation.

The BTAA doesn't really play a role in research itself. If say Michigan State or Illinois left the Big Ten tomorrow, it would not affect the grants that their professors earned in the future.

 

[AuH2O]

The BTAA means a lot to member university research revenue, and it's driven by conference affiliation.

Somebody raised this earlier, in the grand scheme of research dollars it looks to be really low impact. The last annual report I saw they had published from three years ago quantifies savings, which come out to about $1M per year per school. They play up some brain research consortium but it sounds like some nice resource sharing, but schools do stuff like that all the time, and the schools still have to go out and get funding. This is not a windfall for any of the member schools. I’m sure the people at the BTAA would be trying to quantify every dollar as impact they can. So they are either the most modest people in academia, incompetent marketers, or it’s a nice little thing that saves a few administrative dollars that is a drop in the bucket. I could be missing something, but when I actually looked at what they did and their impact it didn’t seem like much.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Hate to break it to the Hawk troll’s here, but the largest school in the state that has the best facilities and a growing football program isn’t going to be left out at the end of all this. Find a new schtick because trying to claim that you or any of these journalists know anything at this point is ridiculous.

What does "left out" mean? What does an eight leftovers plus BYU/Houston/Cincy/UCF conference with 1/3rd of the per-school revenue of the B1G or SEC mean? Especially if the B1G/Pac/ACC forms some sort of alliance without the Big 12? Because this outcome is very plausible whether we like it or not.