I just can't wait for the SEC chants from the 8 schools whenever OU/UT lose....so excited for that
What Should the Remaining Big 12 Schools Do?
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Completely agree. KU fans wave the "We are blueblood in bball card"...Then the KU fan base got sent back to reality in the recent Dodds article that showed that KU football actually brings in more revenue than KU bball...lol.. I actually found this surprising as well.
Given that...KU football is truly atrocious. Adding NDSU would be a far better pull for the BIG and far more competetive. That stadium at KU is laughable.
Who knows.
What you are saying is true, its better to be good in a large metro area than a smaller one. But you also have to remember that with 3 pro teams in the Phoenix area they are also going to draw fans dollars from ASU. There are only so many dollars going around from fans and the Phoenix area is splitting them a lot of different ways. Here in Iowa there are NO pro teams in any sport, just high minor league, so there tends to be more fans that go to ISU or Iowa than say UA or ASU.
Nobody gives a **** about the Cardinals in Phoenix. It's the worst NFL city in the league. The Diamondbacks could leave town and nobody would notice. The Suns do have pretty decent support. It's a transplant city.
Kansas gets more money from their football rights than their basketball. Let that sink in to let you know how much basketball doesn't matter. AAU though, that is some big money.
Even KU's "blueblood in bball card" is pretty tarnished. Despite having spent $3 million trying to defend themselves from the NCAA's investigation of their men's basketball program, KU has been charged with 5 Level I violations, including lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility. It doesn't get any more serious than that. Punishment will be announced within the next year by the NCAA's newly formed Independent Accountability Resolution Process (IARP) Panel.
While the NCAA has had a long history of weak punishments to high profile institutions who are guilty of rule violations, I believe this case will be different and the hammer will come down on KU men's basketball. KU didn't do themselves any favors by recently signing Bill Self to a "lifetime" contract and sticking it in the NCAA's face.
The Big 10 presidents and AD's are well aware of all this. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt they'll be excited about adding to their family a famously dirty basketball program that's about to receive enormous sanctions, not to mention the worst football program in the nation.
I could care less, I am not making the case that any of the teams in Phoenix draw well, but in metro of 7X larger than ISU, somehow ISU is outdrawing ASU by about 5,000 fans if not more per game and has for the past 5 to 7 years.
5 star fans vs. 5 star market
Actually the Cardinals average about 64,000 a game, not bad, tend to be ranked in 22-25 for attendence. Not great but more fans that ASU are drawing by about 10,000 to 15,000 a game.
Ku football pulls in more money than basketball only because of the B12 GOR. Otherwise, Ku basketball has higher revenue than football and tons more contributions. The Dodd numbers simply don't reflect reality. But they do show how financials can be manipulated to tell a story.
I think it’s more the idea of forcing UT/OU’s hand. Do a buyout, or stay until 2025.
SEC and ESPN wants OU and UT to join ASAP, they are locked by the contract for 18 more months, which gets us to Jan 2022, they will leave after the spring seasons of 2022 and pay the payout. Under the contract ESPN that started this whole mess will be required to pay the remaining money to the conference until it ends in 2024. They may not like it, but I really cannot see them going to court to break the contract, doing so would be difficult and then it sends a poor message to the other leagues, which I am sure that ESPN would like to bid on those leagues in the future.
I see CFB as a product onto itself. Dilute it too much and it loses it's overall value and contracts start to go down. Not have enough members and it's value is not enough. UNI is as important to the whole equation as ISU, if not for any other reason, but a local opportunity which garners higher interest. If the other conferences stand pat and limit CFP to one per conference, SEC implodes and conferences more geographically align again. All is well except for the few disgruntled ones which 'may' be CFP qualified. But, the product as a 'whole' is healthier and stands to do better. Imagine that playoff. Nationwide interest on a grand scale.
