It’s creative but realignment is going to cause Teams in the P5 to get purged, not added. Rich get richer, not share what you can get for yourself.
ISU and PAC12 Attendance and merger idea
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Its also crazy because in game attendance doesn't matter at all. Conferences aren't adding schools to sell more visitor tickets, they are adding schools that can generate more money in upcoming media rights negotiations. The schools that add value are big athletic brands that casual fans know that have a history in big markets. Give ISU a few more top 25 years and they can certainly become one of those brands but the market thing will always hold them back from the big ten perspective. From the Pac12 perspective adding Iowa is a bonus.
People don't attend games in places like that as much. Especially once the team loses a game or two early. It's the same reason you see empty seats at Jets and Giants games in New York. Doesn't necessarily mean people aren't watching on TV. Traffic is a ******* nightmare in So Cal. If I lived 30 minutes from the stadium and it took me 3 hours to get there I wouldn't go either.
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Correct.
The logical thing is a scheduling alliance through the end of the Big XII GOR so UT and OU pay for being traitors.
Then, optimistically (assuming the B1G doesn't offer us) there is a conference merger that includes 4 or 6 teams from the remaining 8 teams. Probably excluding Baylor (worst cultural fit) and WVU (incredibly awkward geographically - I mean it already was without Pacific and Mountain time teams in the majority).
Add 4: ISU, KU, OSU, TTU
Add 6: include TCU and KSU
You would only have 3 teams that you play every year, so that schedule is ever changing. Finishing first in your pod wouldn't get you a spot in the championship, overall conference record would. Big ten east vs west? SEC? You can look at any conference and they're usually imbalanced. Just depends on the year.
Why anyone would 'dumb' this is beyond me. Especially, since you stated it was a 'crazy idea'. For my part, I enjoyed this much more than most realignment posts because you threw some data in there to substantiate it. Thank you. But, I don't quite see the world arriving at this alignment. Not because it isn't a good alignment, but rather because how often does anyone do anything 'right' these days. Bottom line: odds are against it.
But it is a great indicator of fan enthusiasm which translates much better to media eyes than any other model.
That is true, but those schools are generally not coming on the market willing and ready to move to another conference. The Big 10 can talk about how much more money USC can earn by joining the conference, but does USC really need the money and is it worth all the headache of being one of two teams on the western side of an central/eastern conference, when they can stay where they are and reform the conference by picking up the central portion of the Big 12?
School like WV moved because they saw the Big East crashing and the life boat provided by the Big 12 allowed them to stay in a P5 conference. No one thinks that if the ACC would have stepped up and offered them a spot they would have taken the Big 12 invite, and we pay more out in TV money than the ACC.
There’s no way that is likely. Those are flagship PAC schools. They won’t want to deal with coming to Iowa regularly, especially Oregon.
Exactly. What is the point of a conference anymore anyways? Get a champion into the playoffs doesn't even matter if Texas and OU want to fight for those spots within the SEC.
I say just put the Power 5 all together, do it regionally, and split revenue as best you can based on what each team brings. Equality in pay within it is going to die real soon. It was the reason the reason this all started, and the reason it will end.
Texas/OU will be happy for a bit and take a chunk of the new mega-tv contract it will bring, but they will soon not want to keep feeding all the SEC bottom feeders.
All a conference is now is an alliance of teams that market themselves together for a singular TV contract.
OU/TX could very well forever be remembered for ruining college football.
The scenario I layed out in the OP had a mega 24 team conference, which really just looks like 2 conferences joined. So I thought what if we just removed the PAC12.
I just left them in the Pods but not how they'd get arranged, probably. Just worried about overall conference viability with this roster. (Although, this way you'd your three pod mates and three of the other pods for a 9 game conf schedule.)
EAST
WVU, Cincinnati, UCF, USF
CENTRAL
ISU, KU, OK St., KSU
SOUTH
Baylor, Houston, Texas Tech, TCU
I've compared the 2019 AAC roster, but keep in mind the B12 v3.0 contains 4 of those teams, so their data is really being used twice, but I just wanted to compare averages across the conferences. SEC includes Tex and OK.
Here's what the map looks like:
I just left them in the Pods but not how they'd get arranged, probably. Just worried about overall conference viability with this roster. (Although, this way you'd your three pod mates and three of the other pods for a 9 game conf schedule.)
EAST
WVU, Cincinnati, UCF, USF
CENTRAL
ISU, KU, OK St., KSU
SOUTH
Baylor, Houston, Texas Tech, TCU
| Conference | 2019 Avg. Attendance | 2019 Avg Attendance Rank |
| SEC | 75,071 | 20.9 |
| B1G | 33,722 | 31.8 |
| ACC | 47,706 | 43.8 |
| PAC | 45,849 | 45.8 |
| B12 v3.0 | 44,345 | 47.3 |
| AAC (2019) | 30,285 | 72.0 |
| MWC | 23,100 | 90.4 |
I've compared the 2019 AAC roster, but keep in mind the B12 v3.0 contains 4 of those teams, so their data is really being used twice, but I just wanted to compare averages across the conferences. SEC includes Tex and OK.
Here's what the map looks like:
heck they could possibly ruin college sports in general
Traditional tv money we suck especially for big ten that already has the region.
For online streaming and home/away/bowls ticket sales we are one of the best programs outside the sec/big ten.
