I guess the getting something out of it I am alluding to would be sex, bluntly speaking. When I paid for dates, I wasn't doing it because I wanted some road head, I paid because I was generally hopeful for a 2nd date if I felt like it had gone well, but if not, I would still pay.Yeah but isn't "getting something out of it" implied? And for women too? I'm not trying to find another drinking buddy, I've got a bunch of great ones. It just seem so silly to me, it's a common courtesy to pay and so not a big deal. To me it's exactly the same thing as opening a door.
I agree with you, I would treat it just like opening a door or giving up my jacket if she's cold etc.