Steve Prohm says he'll meet with Jamie Pollard to discuss his future next week...

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Also, we're not very athletic.
We really needed to work for shots, and rarely bothered.
Yep lol. I loved how Prohm told everyone last year that he knows we needed length and athleticism so that's what he brought in for this year with recruits.. Turns out those long and athletic guys can barely dribble a basketball.
 
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So even if TJ would be the BEST candidate then JP can’t take TJ because it looks bad? That is sheer stupidity. That is not how JP operates.
If TJ is named the coach next week, it'll incredibly rushed and like JP never actually had a search. If it takes a bit, there is a true search and TJ is announced, I wouldn't be as skeptical.
 
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Yep lol. I loved how Prohm told everyone last year that he knows we needed length and athleticism so that's what he brought in for this year with recruits.. Turns out those long and athletic guys can barely dribble a basketball.

Which is almost always the case when someone stresses a word like "athleticism" in recruiting news.
That said, I'm not sure if these guys are actually athletic or not. Nothing we did put them in a position to show either way.
 
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So true. If either were accompanied by any sort of off the ball action to open up good shots and add unpredictability, sure, go with those as foundations for the offense.
But when either one is clearly the only thing that we're going to try, come on. Add a wrinkle or 5000.
(Note: I picked 5000 because I can't remember the # we threw around in the GMac years.)

What really mystified me was not that our half-court offense and sets were bad, but that Prohm seemed to insist that we were going to play a half-court game despite that being an obvious weakness.

Prohm teams were this odd mixture of small and slow. He did not let his guys run much. That worked with the '17 and '19 teams because they had such awesome offensive firepower, but with his other teams...

Why not try it...? Better than pounding the rock then turning it over or bricking a bad shot in the half-court.

A few of his best players (e.g., Haliburton and Bolton) would have been great in a run 'n' gun offense. Given the generally flat (and low) talent level on the team, too, why not go hard when you have equivalent subs.

The whole Prohm tenure reminds me of standing muzzle-to-muzzle with British redcoats during the Revolutionary War. You know they are better at that then you. You know respecting the rules of fair conduct and "gentlemanly" warfare are going to force you into an unwinnable situation. So why do you still march up there and do it?

Why don't you do what you should -- refuse to fight like that, muddy up the game with pressure and tempo on offense, and see what happens? Might fail sometimes, but it might work sometimes, too, and it allows you to give more playing time to your bench guys and maybe makes the whole experience a bit more fun.
 

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I don’t have an issue with TJs post season record, as that’s the way it’s going to be. I was responding to the post stating that TJ is a better candidate than Prohm was in part because Prohm did not have success in the post season.

TJ is a better Coach than Prohm. Prohm is absolutely worse than any of our potential candidates.
 

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ISU was blocked because TJ got caught trying to poach Uthoff before he ever declared that he was transferring. Bo Ryan keeping that detail to himself while he was getting blasted by the media makes him a pretty solid guy in my book.
Didn't Fred's staff get into some warm water with the recruitment of Peter Jok as well? Was that TJ?
 

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Which is almost always the case when someone stresses a word like "athleticism" in recruiting news.
That said, I'm not sure if these guys are actually athletic or not. Nothing we did put them in a position to show either way.
I would love to know why Dubar stopped seeing the floor. Sure, he struggled at times, but s*** so did everyone else. Also last year, our freshman like Jackson and Grill were thrown to the wolves and Prohm dealt with their mistakes. Idk. I just thought that was weird. Like, we didn't win a single conference game. Why not get them experience in a year that doesn't count for eligibility.
 

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Well one big difference is Hoiberg recruited those guys. TJ inherited Daum.

So we can’t consider Prohm’s record with those guys? Just wondering. Because Prohm’s record is even more atrocious. Do we disregard Craig Smith’s first 3 years at Utah State?
 

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So we can’t consider Prohm’s record with those guys? Just wondering. Because Prohm’s record is even more atrocious. Do we disregard Craig Smith’s first 3 years at Utah State?

Um, he's wrapping up his 2nd year.
Try a fact here and there instead of trying dumb and insufferable.

EDIT: For factuality, wrapping up his 3rd year.
 
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So that is your standard, better than Prohm. I would guess that qualifies a lot of candidates.

Too bad we didn’t have that standard when we replaced Fred. I said all the Coaching Candidates were better Coaches than Prohm. So all will be an improvement. I want Coach K. Grand Slam Hire. JP doesn’t even have to interview other Coaches. Even though to some it might look bad not having a wide open search.
 
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