Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?

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ehh...that’s what I thought too. But I think the “he’s not fred” hangover might last longer than one coach. It won’t be as bad. But it’ll be there.

It would happen eventually if he doesn’t surpass accomplishments.

but it’s going to take at least 4 full seasons before any questions will arise
 

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She was a star in 6 player ball in the 30’s.

sign her up! That would get us national attention.

I also was a player in 6 player in middle school. I was not a star, so I’ll be grandmas assistant.
 

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can you imagine if its like porter moser, or of course tj, after getting everyone excited about the possibility of fred making his triumphant return?

Eh, I expect a mid major head coach, and I’m one who has said we should go big and go after Hoiberg. I think most of us anticipate a relatively underwhelming hire in terms of name recognition. That doesn’t mean it will be bad, honestly all of our hires have been like that for three decades. And we’ve found some great coaches.
 

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Disagree, the Sangre De Crista mountains have some amazing skiing and snowboarding. When they opened up Taos to snowboards I was like the 10th person in the lift line. I learned to ride big mountains at Angel Fire and Red River.

Cloudcroft in the south is also an amazing place visually.
I wouldnt say its all a wasteland.

I quite enjoyed going to white sands and then driving up to cloudcroft when i visited las cruces (which itself is a nice little college town)

I'll agree with you guys, NM has a lot to offer. There are definitely some desolate areas there, but you get a lot of the good things of Arizona and Colorado without some of the blistering heat, the harsh winters, and the high costs of those two -- NM isn't perfect, but it avoids some of AZ and CO's problems.

One of the coolest weekends of my life (as lame as it sounds) was going to Balloon Fiesta.

You wouldn't think watching balloons take off would be so fun but... it was.

I also had a really nice time for half a week in Santa Fe for a conference for work.
 
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holy **** dude. How can I make this simple so you can figure it out?

Donors will pony up buyout for FRED. Just Fred, no one else, it’s not a blank check to the AD. It’s to buy out Fred. If that money is not used to buyout Fred, then that money doesn’t exist. Make sense?

I understand fully. I am just not buying what you are selling, Fred is not coming back to Ames even if a wealthy donor pays the Nebraska buyout and pays Fred salary.

What I am saying and you don't seem to understand. Per you, Daddy Warbucks is willing to pay the $10M Nebraska buyout AND obviously part of Fred's salary at Iowa State. Prohm makes around $2.5M and Fred makes around $3.6M at Nebraska. Fred isn't going to give ISU the hometown discount, so Daddy Warbucks is going to need to donate around $15M to bring Fred to Ames. Assuming a 4 year contract.

So if Daddy Warbucks is a LOYAL Cyclone fan, if he is willing to pay $15M to bring Fred to Ames. When Fred decides not to come to Ames, then Daddy Warbucks (a LOYAL Cyclone fan) should be willing to donate $6-10M to bring another proven winner to Ames (incemental amount between Prohm's salary and a $4-5M salary to attract a big name coach).

I think I have been pretty CLEAR. This Fred chatter is complete BS!! Like others have astutely pointed out, if Jamie backs up the truck for Fred or any new basketball coach, then Jamie will also need to back up the truck for Matt Campbell beyond last month's new agreement.

I FULLY EXPECT IOWA STATES NEXT COACH WILL BE A P5 ASSISTANT OR MID-MAJOR HEAD COACH. [/QUOTE]
 
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Why are you guys talking about Fred?

:jimlad:I think JP brings in a different former ISU HC. Maybe McD or Wayne Morgan or Larry. I mean, why not? :jimlad: That'd be fun. :jimlad:

Any thoughts on the Grinnell guy? Has anyone actually watched their games? I'm intrigued by the thought of a full court press defense that only shoots layups or 3s on offense.
 
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What says Hoiberg returning for part deux is going work?

The market inefficiency of transfers isn’t what it used to be and was beginning to lose its power in the twilight of Hoiberg’s last ISU stint.

The formula for success (transfers, free flowing offense that captitalizes on the easy transition pts) simply isn’t as powerful as it used to be.....which is a model Prohm has tried to emulate without much subsequent reinvention. Lack of success at NU provides evidence that Hoiberg et al. are not coaching above their weight either. Heck Tim Miles certainly did more in 2 years at NU than Hoiberg has.

Other than blind nostalgia stoking the flames of a former, I don’t understand the appeal. Seems like fansite delusion.
 

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Where the hell am I? With all the crazy talk on here I swear I went to CF and it redirected me to some crazy conspiracy theory website.

J.P. Morgan intentionally had the RMS Titanic sank as an insurance scam and to assassinate Jacob Astor, Isidor Straus, and Benjamin Guggenheim. Those three tycoons were the major force holding back the passage of the Federal Reserve Act, which passes in 1913 after Titanic sank in... 1912.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
 
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What says Hoiberg returning for part deux is going work?

The market inefficiency of transfers isn’t what it used to be and was beginning to lose its power in the twilight of Hoiberg’s last ISU stint.

The formula for success (transfers, free flowing offense that captitalizes on the easy transition pts) simply isn’t as powerful as it used to be.....which is a model Prohm has tried to emulate without much subsequent reinvention. Lack of success at NU doesn’t really provide evidence that Hoiberg et al. are coaching above their weight either. Heck Tim Miles certainly did more in 2 years at NU than Hoiberg has.

Other than blind nostalgia stoking the flames of a former, I don’t understand the appeal. Seems like fansite delusion.


much like hiring a former assistant.
 

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What says Hoiberg returning for part deux is going work?

The market inefficiency of transfers isn’t what it used to be and was beginning to lose its power in the twilight of Hoiberg’s last ISU stint.

The formula for success (transfers, free flowing offense that captitalizes on the easy transition pts) simply isn’t as powerful as it used to be.....which is a model Prohm has tried to emulate without much subsequent reinvention. Lack of success at NU provides evidence that Hoiberg et al. are not coaching above their weight either. Heck Tim Miles certainly did more in 2 years at NU than Hoiberg has.

Other than blind nostalgia stoking the flames of a former, I don’t understand the appeal. Seems like fansite delusion.

Every hire is a roll of the dice. Some coaches don't fit. Some coaches aren't able to translate success at the midmajor level to success at the high major level. Etc.

Hoiberg had success here. He's had high major coaching experience at two schools now, and had incredible success at his first stop and its, quite frankly, too early to tell at stop 2 due to it being a historically awful program.. Of all the gambles to take, he's probably the safest bet of any that are realistically on ISU's radar (if he is, indeed, on the radar)
 

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What says Hoiberg returning for part deux is going work?

The market inefficiency of transfers isn’t what it used to be and was beginning to lose its power in the twilight of Hoiberg’s last ISU stint.

The formula for success (transfers, free flowing offense that captitalizes on the easy transition pts) simply isn’t as powerful as it used to be.....which is a model Prohm has tried to emulate without much subsequent reinvention. Lack of success at NU provides evidence that Hoiberg et al. are not coaching above their weight either. Heck Tim Miles certainly did more in 2 years at NU than Hoiberg has.

Other than blind nostalgia stoking the flames of a former, I don’t understand the appeal. Seems like fansite delusion.

Nothing says anything is going to work.