They love their cars. Both of them put a deposit down like 2 years ago when they were first announced. Got their cars delivered last year.
I thought they were supposed to be closer to $35K now?
Vehicle reliability - best make/models?
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I thought they were supposed to be closer to $35K now?
Just about any Toyota or Subaru models will be good vehicles. Have owned a 2004 Camry and 2015 Rav4, both very dependable. Also have a 2018 Outback. Again, a very solid vehicle, and built in USA (Subaru factory in Indiana).
Base, yes. But the long range battery is an extra $9k. Add in a few options and you are in the upper $40s. If you want the self-driving/auto-pilot feature, its another $10k.
Agree with those who say try to avoid new models or redesigns until year 2 or 3. Search the internet for new cars to avoid or what problems they're having - especially for ones you are interested in.
Old stories aren't much help, but that's what I have - my soon-to-be-wife got a new late 70's Honda Civic - valves went out twice at low miles - not near a Honda dealer to get their repair. Since, we have never looked at a Honda vehicle. Have owned 4 Mazda's from 1974 (rotary - fun stuff) to the current 2009 sedan. Only problem to make me unhappy was a failed throttle body at about 70k on the 2000 minivan.
New 2005 Ford freestyle driven 109,000 miles with no problems - then AC and suspension repairs. Still being driven by a family member with over 200k on it. Also driving a 2014 Ford Edge and will agree with those who like it. Reliable with good ride and handling characteristics.
Son had a 70's Jeep CJ (now Wrangler) used - engine was newer, rest was not. Problem is they invite hard use and generally get it - as in going mudding down South Skunk River and needing to be winched out or do the winching. Many repairs and new/used parts. Although that was not an FCA built vehicle, I still have zero interest in any Jeep.
Old stories aren't much help, but that's what I have - my soon-to-be-wife got a new late 70's Honda Civic - valves went out twice at low miles - not near a Honda dealer to get their repair. Since, we have never looked at a Honda vehicle. Have owned 4 Mazda's from 1974 (rotary - fun stuff) to the current 2009 sedan. Only problem to make me unhappy was a failed throttle body at about 70k on the 2000 minivan.
New 2005 Ford freestyle driven 109,000 miles with no problems - then AC and suspension repairs. Still being driven by a family member with over 200k on it. Also driving a 2014 Ford Edge and will agree with those who like it. Reliable with good ride and handling characteristics.
Son had a 70's Jeep CJ (now Wrangler) used - engine was newer, rest was not. Problem is they invite hard use and generally get it - as in going mudding down South Skunk River and needing to be winched out or do the winching. Many repairs and new/used parts. Although that was not an FCA built vehicle, I still have zero interest in any Jeep.
Agree 100%. I was just giving a context for my car buying history in the post. It's the main reason I don't consider buying any car a problem.
Vehicles are way more dependable now. 90% or more comes down to maintenance. I don’t have a vehicle that didnt make 200k and was still fine. Have one pickup that has been rode hard most of its life but I mechanically took care of it and it is right at 200k miles now. Change oil and use at least a synthetic blend, don’t go cheap on parts and you will have a solid vehicle.
Sort of. I got my first car when I was 16, it was a total shitter. I think I blew the transmission so we got rid of it. At 17, I got an Infiniti. That car lasted me a year before another blown transmission and other issues emerged. I thought I was going to have my 3rd car for a while, but my grandma offered her car since she was getting a new one. So in 5 years, I've had 4 different cars.
Lucky for the world that everyone has different tastes. I think the Kia is a lot better looking from all angles.
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Kia on right
I mean the Telluride in photos looked great and the Palisade wasn't our first choice. but after seeing both of them in person the choice became easy. those photos actually show another design element of the Telluride that I have to ask why on with the little rectangle crease behind the front wheels I honestly hadn't noticed that before. but I think the only reason so many think the Telluride "looks better is because it was introduced here first, while the Palisade was sold overseas first. they are both great vehicles that obviously share a lot, but you really do get more for less with the Palisade.Lucky for the world that everyone has different tastes. I think the Kia is a lot better looking from all angles.
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Kia on right
Had two wranglers with no issues, and while I didn’t wheel them every weekend I certainly abused them more than any other car I’ve owned. Could never get used to the feeling that I was going to go tumbling backwards or sideways though.
I bought a new vehicle a few years ago. I don't drive much. My next car will be some sort of fully electric vehicle.
Lucky for the world that everyone has different tastes. I think the Kia is a lot better looking from all angles.
Kia Telluride on bottom
Kia on right
I honestly don't mean this in a bad way, but there just isn't anything a mid size SUV can do to look good to me. It's just a mid size SUV.
The Honda Odyssey that several posts have mentioned is actually one of the top 10 "most American " cars made today. It is built here and way over 50% of of it's composition is USA sourced.
Honda really doesn't import many cars to the US and Toyota imports around 50%. Same for VW, Mercedes and BMW. On the flip side, several US brands are made in Mexico or even Asia and imported.
I have been in automotive manufacturing Quality for a decade and I drive an Acura with a J vin, which means it was actually built in Japan. I drove an Ohio made Honda for almost 20 years also.
I would never purchase any Kia or a Hyundai based on knowledge of components, but you could say that about at least a few models from every manufacturer. Toyota just makes beyond boring vehicles. Overall quality is good though.
Based off of intimate knowledge of Tesla's parts and manufacturing practices, I can say without a doubt that they are garbage. Some cool technology, but as other more established car companies catch up and pass them they will probably be left in the dust.
Honda really doesn't import many cars to the US and Toyota imports around 50%. Same for VW, Mercedes and BMW. On the flip side, several US brands are made in Mexico or even Asia and imported.
I have been in automotive manufacturing Quality for a decade and I drive an Acura with a J vin, which means it was actually built in Japan. I drove an Ohio made Honda for almost 20 years also.
I would never purchase any Kia or a Hyundai based on knowledge of components, but you could say that about at least a few models from every manufacturer. Toyota just makes beyond boring vehicles. Overall quality is good though.
Based off of intimate knowledge of Tesla's parts and manufacturing practices, I can say without a doubt that they are garbage. Some cool technology, but as other more established car companies catch up and pass them they will probably be left in the dust.
