Kirk Ferentz getting sued for being racist

[CyTwins]

Have you ever been around a college football program at all? Coaches being ******** to players is the norm. Everywhere. That's not what this is at all. It's partly sad and partly hilarious that you are trying chalk this up as coaches being ********.

Brian Ferentz called an African American a "dumb *** black player". That's not being an *** hole that's being a racist

 

[Statefan10]

In what ways did Iowa discriminate against black players? Be specific.

Report shows Iowa was aware of ‘serious racial bias’ within football program after internal investigation

Dozens of Black former Iowa football players began speaking out in early June about alleged racial disparities within the program and the mistreatment of Black players. According to a report by Hawkeye Nation, a document shows the Iowa athletics department knew about the extent of these problems...

dailyiowan.com

This report above was an internal report done by the University of Iowa in 2018. This isn't even the one done by the outside investigative team.

Iowa football racial disparity report: Read Husch Blackwell report here

The report suggests additional action steps to be implemented by Iowa athletics to address the concerns brought forward to investigators.

www.hawkcentral.com

This link has the full report done by Husch-Blackwell.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

In what ways did Iowa discriminate against black players? Be specific.

Clear your Fu***** schedule...

 

[BCClone]

Iowa getting rid of back in black for their entrance. Kirk went the CPR route kinda

 

[Statefan10]

Clear your Fu***** schedule...

I can guarantee you this moron didn't even read the entire report. He read a couple of articles written about the report, watched / listened to Barta and Kirk give their press-conferences that were miserable, and then erased this entire thing from his memory.

If he read the report, he wouldn't have asked that question.

 

[Brodie0]

Well that's just not true considering a 3 month investigation proved without a doubt that African American football players were indeed being treated differently than those who are white. That internal report lays the groundwork for these lawyers to be able to prove that these players were mistreated due to their race.

Also, do you really think Iowa would've run Doyle out of the program because he was an a**hole? He would've been gone years ago when he put a dozen players in the hospital. Nah. I don't buy that for a single second and neither do you, but your true "proud" to say otherwise.

Please point out where in the report it proves “without a doubt” that black players were being treated differently than white players.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Please point out where in the report it proves “without a doubt” that black players were being treated differently than white players.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

No, they are asking for 20MM plus attorney fees. Am I the only one who read it?

Understand. Trust me, it is on contingency. That is standard language in any lawsuit.

 

[Statefan10]

Please point out where in the report it proves “without a doubt” that black players were being treated differently than white players.

I know you're not likely to read this but this took about 3 minutes to find within the report.

"There were strong disparities in witness perceptions of football program culture, especially with respect to race. Numerous players told investigators they chose to play at Iowa because of its reputation for being disciplined. Generally speaking, these players have no concerns with the football program’s culture. Multiple players and coaches said they have never seen or observed anything racially offensive. Two current White players conveyed to investigators that people have confused a “discipline culture” with a “racist culture.” In contrast, other players of various races expressed serious concerns about the racial climate. One former player explained: “Being an Iowa football player was a daily struggle for black players. We were punished for no apparent reason, singled out by coaches, and threatened and ridiculed every day. It is hard to explain how difficult it was. Think about being under pressure every day for 4 years solely because of your race. That is how it was for me and my black teammates."

"Echoing the sentiments of many current and former players, this coach explained that it is harder to be a Black player in the program because of the player “mold.” This sentiment is consistent with the views of the current and former players we interviewed who expressed an almost universal feeling that Black players do not feel supported within the program, even if they have not directly experienced negative treatment overtly based on race."

"Another player stated that the staff would not allow players to show their personalities, and he described that the coaches preferred the players to be “fake” rather than be themselves. That player recalled a coach telling the freshmen players that they needed to “get on a boat and sail away from their old lives” to be successful in the program."

"Acknowledging extra burdens for Black players, several players and staff alike referred to a saying about the program: "If you make it through the Iowa football program as a Black player, then you can do anything." One former player explained that it is difficult for people who have not been involved with a major football program to understand how Black players are treated. As he described, “I worked hard and helped our team win games. I finished as one of the top XXXs 2 in the program’s history, but every single day was a struggle. I felt bad about myself as did many of my Black teammates. We wanted badly to be successful and to help our team and took the abuse to achieve team goals.”

"Several players, both current and former, also shared their belief that the coaching staff is not as welcoming or friendly to Black players as to their White teammates. According to the players, coaches “only become friendly with the Black players when they are contributing to the team” or if the Black player is a “superstar.” One current player, who is White, told investigators he feels supported by the whole staff, yet he acknowledged that his experience has been different than his Black teammates."

"Finally, one former player said the culture is one where it is acceptable to demean people due to disability or race. According to several players, issues within the culture were “not just a Chris Doyle problem.” Those players said the culture problems are systemic and cannot be fixed simply by getting rid of one coach. Several former players commented that Coach Doyle should not be a “scapegoat” for the systemic issues in the program."

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

He has to have a DND though.

That can be exposed thru legal proceedings.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

Please point out where in the report it proves “without a doubt” that black players were being treated differently than white players.

That was not the intention of the report, especially since Iowa hired them. Does show weakness of their position.

 

[JP4CY]

The former players don’t have much of a case. Will be interesting to see if Iowa settles this to prevent discovery, or if they let the lawsuit play out and tell the litigants to pound sand.

Lawyer Benji steps up to the plate!

 

[Brodie0]

I know you're not likely to read this but this took about 3 minutes to find within the report.

"There were strong disparities in witness perceptions of football program culture, especially with respect to race. Numerous players told investigators they chose to play at Iowa because of its reputation for being disciplined. Generally speaking, these players have no concerns with the football program’s culture. Multiple players and coaches said they have never seen or observed anything racially offensive. Two current White players conveyed to investigators that people have confused a “discipline culture” with a “racist culture.” In contrast, other players of various races expressed serious concerns about the racial climate. One former player explained: “Being an Iowa football player was a daily struggle for black players. We were punished for no apparent reason, singled out by coaches, and threatened and ridiculed every day. It is hard to explain how difficult it was. Think about being under pressure every day for 4 years solely because of your race. That is how it was for me and my black teammates."

"Echoing the sentiments of many current and former players, this coach explained that it is harder to be a Black player in the program because of the player “mold.” This sentiment is consistent with the views of the current and former players we interviewed who expressed an almost universal feeling that Black players do not feel supported within the program, even if they have not directly experienced negative treatment overtly based on race."

"Another player stated that the staff would not allow players to show their personalities, and he described that the coaches preferred the players to be “fake” rather than be themselves. That player recalled a coach telling the freshmen players that they needed to “get on a boat and sail away from their old lives” to be successful in the program."

"Acknowledging extra burdens for Black players, several players and staff alike referred to a saying about the program: "If you make it through the Iowa football program as a Black player, then you can do anything." One former player explained that it is difficult for people who have not been involved with a major football program to understand how Black players are treated. As he described, “I worked hard and helped our team win games. I finished as one of the top XXXs 2 in the program’s history, but every single day was a struggle. I felt bad about myself as did many of my Black teammates. We wanted badly to be successful and to help our team and took the abuse to achieve team goals.”

"Several players, both current and former, also shared their belief that the coaching staff is not as welcoming or friendly to Black players as to their White teammates. According to the players, coaches “only become friendly with the Black players when they are contributing to the team” or if the Black player is a “superstar.” One current player, who is White, told investigators he feels supported by the whole staff, yet he acknowledged that his experience has been different than his Black teammates."

"Finally, one former player said the culture is one where it is acceptable to demean people due to disability or race. According to several players, issues within the culture were “not just a Chris Doyle problem.” Those players said the culture problems are systemic and cannot be fixed simply by getting rid of one coach. Several former players commented that Coach Doyle should not be a “scapegoat” for the systemic issues in the program."

All you have quoted are paragraphs showing a general agreement that Iowa’s culture was more difficult to adapt to for black players (which is not discrimination), and unsubstantiated claims from various players that they perceived a difference in treatment based on race. Please point out specifically where in the report that Husch Blackwell confirmed, as a matter of fact, that black players were treated differently from white players.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

Brian Ferentz called an African American a "dumb *** black player". That's not being an *** hole that's being a racist

Maybe said better - how many times did he call someone "a dumb white player?"

 

[MartyFine]

All you have quoted are paragraphs showing a general agreement that Iowa’s culture was more difficult to adapt to for black players (which is not discrimination), and unsubstantiated claims from various players that they perceived a difference in treatment based on race. Please point out specifically where in the report that Husch Blackwell confirmed, as a matter of fact, that black players were treated differently from white players.

 

[Statefan10]

All you have quoted are paragraphs showing a general agreement that Iowa’s culture was more difficult to adapt to for black players (which is not discrimination), and unsubstantiated claims from various players that they perceived a difference in treatment based on race. Please point out specifically where in the report that Husch Blackwell confirmed, as a matter of fact, that black players were treated differently from white players.

Maybe, just maybe, the "Iowa Culture" is actually discriminatory and that's why these black players found it more difficult to adapt to it? And Husch Blackwell's job was to report their findings, not to report their opinion. They gave back detailed accounts of former players and coaches AND they didn't even interview any of the people that are now suing Iowa! So what does that tell you?

Also, there were 70+ allegations out there describing this awful culture. You're telling me that 70+ players are lying about all of this?

You're off the rails buddy.

 

[Cyclone06]

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We need a "laugh out loud, oh wait, that is sad" emoji!

 

[Brodie0]

Maybe, just maybe, the "Iowa Culture" is actually discriminatory and that's why these black players found it more difficult to adapt to it? And Husch Blackwell's job was to report their findings, not to report their opinion. They gave back detailed accounts of former players and coaches AND they didn't even interview any of the people that are now suing Iowa! So what does that tell you?

Also, there were 70+ allegations out there describing this awful culture. You're telling me that 70+ players are lying about all of this?

You're off the rails buddy.

You claimed that the report proved, without a doubt, that Iowa treated black players different than white players. That’s simply not true.

 

[Statefan10]

You claimed that the report proved, without a doubt, that Iowa treated black players different than white players. That’s simply not true.

Husch Blackwell report: Iowa football 'perpetuated racial biases'

Husch Blackwell report: Iowa football 'perpetuated racial biases'

The report said that perpetuated an environment which facilitated what current and former players described as the accepted bullying and demeaning of athletes, especially Black athletes.

wcfcourier.com

Husch Blackwell report: Hawkeye football program 'perpetuated racial biases, over-monitored players'; read full report

Husch Blackwell report: Hawkeye football program 'perpetuated racial biases, over-monitored players'; read full report

The “Iowa way’’ left a number of Black players on the Iowa football team seeing themselves as being treated harshly, but a review of the program also largely clears coach

qctimes.com

Iowa football review: Program's 'Iowa Way' left Black players feeling 'isolated, targeted, and unwelcome'

Iowa football review: Program's 'Iowa Way' left Black players feeling 'isolated, targeted, and unwelcome'

An independent review released Thursday of the Iowa Hawkeyes football program confirmed complaints from Black former players that some coaches …

www.thegazette.com

 

[Neptune78]

Please point out where in the report it proves “without a doubt” that black players were being treated differently than white players.

We're not in criminal court 'beyond a reasonable doubt' territory here BO. Kirk's screwed.