Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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So go against federal order that states plants need to stay open. You do know a governor of a state doesn't have power to go against that orrr....
Thanks for making my point. She did take multiple companies' word for it earlier and was proven wrong. Thus, the question: how can she know now that they're doing the right thing?
It's not a "gotcha" question at all. In fact, for a governor who's actually doing her job, it ought to be a softball question.
So what is your solution? Like I said don’t just say keep current restrictions because it isn’t realistic. People are itching to get back to normal. Our strategy of mitigation now is how can we keep people as distanced as possible. If we don’t start looking for those things than we are just going to basically tear down the dam and flood everyone out.
I'd go a step further and say that someone from the CDC should have been placed at each facility to take responsibility of worker safety. That should have been a part of the EO when the companies were protected from liability. Take it out of the company's hands.
But in the end, the federal government took it out of the states' control.
You've been on this since everything started--every time any of this comes up you are sure that the cure is worse than the disease, etc, etc.. Did you think people's mental health was so fragile that they couldn't do this for a week? Are we seeing huge spikes in people breaking down?
How many people are actually itching to get back to normal? Polls show that a vast majority of people aren't in any hurry.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5ddc3a-8e36-11ea-9e23-6914ee410a5f_story.html
I would say people grow the **** up and realize we live in a time where there is literally infinite things to do. The british lived through 2 years of blitzkrieg and all they had to do was tiddlywinks and dodging bombs. It's been 2 months and you have infinite technology and near infinite things to do in nature.
It isn’t about me or you it is about society. You can live in your theoretical world where people are smart but I’ll deal with reality where people are really dumb.
For what? There are no laws on the books saying workers must be spaced and always wearing masks. These are recommendations and the only avenue to protect the workers was through liability and the courts.
"72% believe moving too quickly to loosen the stay-at-home orders is a greater threat to the country than moving too slowly, and 86% think social distancing and stay-at-home orders are responsible policies. And if restrictions were lifted tomorrow, some 80% say they are unlikely to go out to public places that are likely to draw crowds."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/lar...-restrictions-slower-return/story?id=70291873
Sounds like you fall into the category of people who need to stop being so entitled. If you can't watch netflix and masturbate to save grandma you're probably a sociopath.
No, she's the executive. Her job isn't to go to each plant. And I wouldn't have any expectation that she knows the details of what the precautions are. But there are lots of state and county officials who do have the job to go to each plant and those people report up to her and I'd expect her, given the current situation, to be able to discuss it at a high level.
I wouldn't expect her to be able to say "workers are spaced exactly 6.2 feet apart with a plastic shield of X size over thier face and they are cleaning all common spaces every Y minutes" or anything like that. But I would expect her to be able to say "We are ensuring that the plants are following all local, state, and national level safety guidelines".
It is so vague though. Ask if gowns, gloves, masks, shields are all being provided; something like that. To go open ended is just poor.
Then to ask if they can assure that a vague grouping is being provided and being followed? No person outside of the coordinator from that facility can assure that or now for certain. This isn't a tough question, it is a pure lazily formed question that is way to vague to garner any information from it.
If 50 governors are asked this question, the only truthful answer they can give is to say; no, they can't assure anything is happening at independent businesses.
People are still cutting hair, even though there is a shut down on it. Just informed that a hair dresser got a 500 dollar fine recently. You can't assure things even when you tell other businesses to do it. Poor poor question.
To do what, have someone walk through and do an inspection? And then things go back to how they were once the inspection is over. How does she ensure they are continuously taking proper safety precautions?
There’s no way in hell FSIS is going to agree to have oversight in regards to this. Believe me.
Yea, I'm sure she can make time out of her day to go do that. Nothing else going on in the state.
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