Selfishness is personal choice. That is and always will be the USA. It's one of the best and worst things about the country. Don't tread on me.
Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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I agree. I haven’t really considered doing it at home. I’ve been more thinking eventually in a few years if people wear them while sick they will then get used to them.
I also think another issue is there really aren’t masks that are designed for regular use. The closest is probably the general surgical masks. But those aren’t reusable if you use them right. The cloth masks that people are making frankly are actually probably pretty close to something that will be normal in the future As they can be washed.
I have a single simple painting mask but I don’t like the idea of reusing it. Ultimately I’m afraid people are going to think that because they “have a mask on” they can act normal when that is definitely not the case.
I think I might try and figure out how to get some washable masks and use your suggestion as it is actually a good idea.
Thanks. Like I said I want to get to where I can wear a mask no problem I’m just not there yet. For me I think it’s a combination of claustrophobia and my face being sensitive. For example I haven’t shaved for a while and now need to shave before I have to go into the office later this week as I can’t stop touching my face. For me like I said until I can not touch my face while wearing one I find it safer to limit going to stores as much as possible and when I can’t go as fast as I can and touch as little as possible.
This whole mask things reminds me of anti lock breaks. I remember there being fierce opposition from a lot of people in the "I've been pumping my breaks since I learned how to drive" crowd. The facts showed that they saved lives but you always had skeptics.
I'm convinced that 90% of the reason people wouldn't wear one is because they think it will make them look like a tool. I can't think of any good reason you couldn't sling one on for the 15 minutes you spend in the grocery store. I will admit that when I first started wearing them a few weeks ago, it made me feel a little self conscious.
I'm convinced that 90% of the reason people wouldn't wear one is because they think it will make them look like a tool. I can't think of any good reason you couldn't sling one on for the 15 minutes you spend in the grocery store. I will admit that when I first started wearing them a few weeks ago, it made me feel a little self conscious.
Well, topless peeps protesting the no shirt policy might be a little less intimidating than guys with AR's and ammo vests with hundreds of rounds of ammo strutting around like peacock pretend soldiers.
I actually think that’s a good analogy. I think at the end of the day like with anti lock breaks they are a positive thing. I also would have been against mandating immediate adapting to them as it is a harder transition for some people. I’m not old enough to have been driving when that change happened. I would think with my understanding of old breaks you would have had issues if you forced everyone to change over right away. That’s kind of how I feel about the mandatory mask crowd. They think the switch is just a you wear masks or you don’t. It isn’t like that for some people.
Are there jackasses who could responsibly wear a mask when they go out and aren’t yes but don’t assume that is everyone. We should be coming up with solutions to help everyone become comfortable wearing a mask.
I think the no-smoking regulations are a better analogy. Smoke spreads similar to the virus - not wearing a mask in the store is similar to walking around a store smoking. No one is showing up to protest smoking bans with AR15s that I've seen.
Seatbelt usage is another good analogy where it was mandated by the state for safety reasons - but that's your safety and not others.
The state should mandate that the store require it in order to "re-open" for the safety of their employees and customers.
Yeah, which is why normalizing wearing them in public is really important so that people don't skip wearing one because they are worried it'll make them look stupid..
I don’t really like the smoking analogy as that is definitely harming people. I’m ok with and probably a proponent of a requirement for mask if someone is sick.
For people without symptoms there is no evidence they are sick.
The seatbelt one was another one I thought about. I still don’t support seat belt usage laws as they are something that will harm you and not others. My grandpa was the same way when that actually started. He had already installed aftermarket seatbelts in his cars but was against requiring it.
Ultimately the seat belt analogy is where I will probably stay on a government requirement for masks with maybe temporary requirements in pandemic situations. Hopefully soon I will be able to comfortably wear one.
Ever try to tell someone not to smoke at Jack Trice? Fisticuffs are a distinct possibility.
Not everyone is harmed by occasional second hand smoke, just like not everyone is harmed by exposure to this virus. In both cases you can't tell by looking at those around you who is succeptable and who is not.
I don’t agree that you aren’t always harmed by second hand smoke. I definitely think you are. How much is maybe a different question. That would be like someone who is sick coughing on you. Are you definitely going to get it no but you are definitely exposing someone to it.
The Federal Gov't has ditched the Univ of Washington model in favor of one developed by the CDC. It shows daily deaths increasing over the month of May to a level of ~3,000 per day.
Isn't the social cost of people not wearing seat belts (through society at large paying higher auto and health insurance premiums and at least a portion of resulting healthcare expense if someone not wearing a seat belt were to be involved in a serious accident that could have otherwise been prevented) a classic example of a negative externality in economics?
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