Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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People like Pride have been suggesting it’s too much for weeks.
We know so little about the virus that you lean on doing too much. We haven’t even gotten to enough.
Prematurely and irresponsibly reverting to normalcy is what will cause lasting damage. No one is calling for needless disruption. That’s a straw man. A new normal will be found, but it’s hard to do until there’s adequate testing, PPE, and medical infrastructure. If you want to expedite restarting the economy, ask if we are we doing enough!
Sure, he had a heart attack in the way home. Did he exercise too much and eat too healthy in his life, or not enough?
Grimes WalMart is only using 1 entrance and limiting the # of shoppers. No complaints from me shopping there.
A good interview linked below (42 minutes) with Stanford Medical School’s Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who has both an MD and a PhD in economics, and who did the Santa Clara County study.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/an-update-from-dr-b.php
It is with Peter Robinson, of Stanford University’s Hoover Institution. In it they discuss the Santa Clara study, many questions such as those that arise on this board, two similar studies he currently has underway for LA County and Major League Baseball, as well as his advice for policymakers.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/an-update-from-dr-b.php
It is with Peter Robinson, of Stanford University’s Hoover Institution. In it they discuss the Santa Clara study, many questions such as those that arise on this board, two similar studies he currently has underway for LA County and Major League Baseball, as well as his advice for policymakers.
Yeah, that's true, although I was thinking US-only when I wrote that. US had 420k deaths over 4 years in WWII, totaling ~0.3% of the population. This probably won't reach that rate - even spread over 4 years - unless the vaccine becomes problematic.
It's one thing to declare mission accomplished and quite another for consumer confidence to be restored. The latter is the only way the economy is going to rebound. If the governors opened restaurants tomorrow, would the servers be able to make more than unemployment if people are still wary? Ultimately it's going to take effective, proven treatments or a vaccine to get everyone out of the bunker. That's why White House officials and the media have been latching on to almost all glimmers of potential.
The only other way I see out of this is a changing of the guidelines for only at risk individuals to socially/physically distance and open up low risk venues first. The goal to build herd immunity. No governor wants to do this because the numbers will peak high.
The only other way I see out of this is a changing of the guidelines for only at risk individuals to socially/physically distance and open up low risk venues first. The goal to build herd immunity. No governor wants to do this because the numbers will peak high.
Again I agree testing and PPE are what’s absolutely needed. You are still missing the point though. The issue is he exercised to much for his current capabilities. Should he have eaten healthier in his past and exercised more. Absolutely. To bad he didn’t. Now he has to get healthier within this context. We screwed up preparations and that freaking sucks. Complaining about that isn’t helpful now. We have to find a way to navigate balancing our economy and health just like the fat guy had to balance exercising and not dying.
You’re missing the point. He didn’t exercise too much and eat too healthy, did he? We’re not dead, nor did the overweight man walking home’ in the metaphor die- that was your ignorant revision.
The ones that are complaining are those asking if we’re doing too much and foolishly ignoring that the length and severity of our actions are inherent to our preparation. We can’t do anything about it, no one suggested that and please don’t use straw mans. Not doing things in the past isn’t a reason to mitigate actions now or hastily return to normal.
Again, if you want to save the economy and return to normal ASAP the question to ask is are we doing enough.
I'll get into the 'let's relate this to unhealthy people' game.
If cases go down, and we get some form of better 'control' via testing, antibodies, whatever, that's akin to what, the person losing some weight over a couple of months and developing a healthy lifestyle?
Then the summer needs to be that person's planning to sustain that healthy lifestyle through the fall and winter.
What are the chances of that happening?
This is my last response to you. The guy died from a heart attack because he was exercising to much. The reason the exercise killed him is because he didn’t take care of himself before. It doesn’t mean that exercise is bad but it means that this amount of exercise was to much for now.
The moral of the story isn’t to not exercise. The moral is to do stuff to improve the situation.
Which would go back to the idea that we really aren't going to learn from past mistakes, or learn how to better our own situations in case something else happens.
This goes on the level of preparation for a second wave, and it goes for much of the population that really just want to get back to things that aren't healthy.
Think it is safe to say all packing plants have been infected at this point.
I'm going to guess that the COVID-19 will be similar to some other viruses in the past 20 years and a vaccine will be very effective. Obviously, I don't know for certain.
I won’t be going to a restaurant, gym, movie theater, mall, concert, sporting event, etc any time soon no matter how much things “reopen”.
Wouldn't be fantastic if Trump had followed the advice of George Washington with the Smallpox virus?
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...20200420&rid=EF8259B56DEA48B1E043999835AEABB0
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...20200420&rid=EF8259B56DEA48B1E043999835AEABB0
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Reports coming out about the Eagle Grove Prestage plant. Not a lot of positive tests so far but a more interesting piece. Also coincides with the worthington report. Several of the tested employees in Eagle Grove are from Blawk hawk county. I know when I said that Linn county could have a bump from the blawk hawk one, that people said that it was not so. So.....today i learned that Waterloo is with in 20-30 miles of Eagle Grove and Worthington, MN is that far from Sioux Falls South Dakota.
When I said the work force of a packing plant is different than people would understand unless they have dealt with it, I meant it. Prestage is 96 miles from waterloo and Worthington is 63 miles from Sioux Falls. Don't assume that the county that the packing plant is located is where the nearly all the employees come from. This is a different culture.
When I said the work force of a packing plant is different than people would understand unless they have dealt with it, I meant it. Prestage is 96 miles from waterloo and Worthington is 63 miles from Sioux Falls. Don't assume that the county that the packing plant is located is where the nearly all the employees come from. This is a different culture.
The economy is ****** either way. Many places will open back up just to close back down because business is too slow
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