Just curious - are you ignoring all medical guidelines and participating in group activities, etc?
Also, has anyone you know contracted the virus at this point?
Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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Just curious - are you ignoring all medical guidelines and participating in group activities, etc?
Also, has anyone you know contracted the virus at this point?
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Yup, we agree. Lots of companies took on a lot of debt to get through the last financial crisis, and it took some time just to get to the point where they were able to start digging back out.
Not to mention that large percentage of people living paycheck to paycheck because of inadequate wages.
That thing was a mess. There was an attorney in town that was basically calling several of his clients who were too busy to file and told them he could file for them. If you are too busy, you may not be who this is aimed at. I heard there were others like this also. Saws places like Ruths Criss steakhouse and Potbelly filed their stores independently so they could still get funds.
I’m staying home. Been home since spring break. Just following the doctors other than Dr Fouci who has completely missed on his assertions. And yes I know someone who had it; had a cough and has since recovered.
Cyclonepride
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Yeah, from what I've heard, the process was pretty intensive, and the smaller of the small businesses may have had a heck of a time getting theirs ready in time.
This is the part that many don't, or refuse to, understand.
This is a WW2-level problem. If nothing was done, the death toll would have been absolutely insane.
And how did we deal with our problem in 1941-1945? We spent an absolute fuckload bringing our governmental resources to bear to defeat the enemy abroad.
This is no different. Except this time, the enemy is a virus. This time, instead of planes and ships and tanks, we win this war by shutting down. People refer to some of these programs as 'bailouts' but i think that's been the wrong nomenclature because a bailout is more when the government steps in as a result of failure on the part of those being rescued. We should really be referring to it as a reimbursement. A reimbursement for the sacrifice of shutting down. The sacrifice appears to have been working, and now it is time to make sure that that sacrifice is reimbursed.
The amount we've passed already? A pittance compared to what we should be mobilizing. Too many are still thinking too small, often because theyre still stuck in the normal politics of normal spending, when they need to be thinking of this like wartime spending.
https://fortune.com/2020/04/15/china-most-asymptomatic-coronavirus-carriers-never-get-sick/
Despite it being Chinese numbers, if the amount of strictly asymptomatic carriers is that high (likely higher), how many people already have the virus? Whether it be asymptomatic or super mild cases. That's what has to be determined. Any educated guesses out there?
Despite it being Chinese numbers, if the amount of strictly asymptomatic carriers is that high (likely higher), how many people already have the virus? Whether it be asymptomatic or super mild cases. That's what has to be determined. Any educated guesses out there?
Not quite. They haven't really closed any businesses. I don't think they'e closed parks and aren't arresting or ticketing people who are out in public spaces. That's the biggest difference. I'd say they've done about 50% of what most U.S. states have done.
Got it...thanks!
Definitely higher than all of the other predictions of 5-10 times...and honestly points towards a much higher number of asymptomatic cases than previously thought. We definitely need more studies to determine where most areas are...ahhh, testing, something we have screwed the pooch on.
Also, California was one of the first areas to see cases...they likely are well ahead of areas in, say Iowa, Nebraska, etc. It certainly would be educational to see such a study done in a Midwest city.
No idea but are there enough people that could chip in enough to help keep people afloat during this time without it affecting their own life?
Is it just a little odd that many think personal responsibility is the way out of this, so they can just get back to watching someone get paid $100 million to run around in plastic and foam and throw a football, while getting back to their lifestyle choices that increase their chances of putting themselves in situations that cost our country hundreds of billions of dollars, including possibly thousands of their own, per year?
I'd also add its a small country, the population is largely homogeneous, and their underlying health issues are non-existent (guessing) compared to NYC, Italy and the broader USA.
That said - time to open things up somehow. While I will continue to take precautions to try and keep safe, at-risk populations HAVE to take more precautions... Period. Take personal responsibility for protecting YOUR health.
I'd agree with that assessment. Businesses are failing and unemployment is increasing simply because people are choosing on their own not to got out. It's a different way to go about it but is having similar results.
Nothing is going to open until we implement the White House's plan released yesterday that requires widespread testing. The plan leaves testing to the States since our Federal Government has broken down completely. Thus, we're probably not going to open up anytime soon...
The people who didnt provide enough PPE for health workers?
And this
Is ********. "known" and "aware" doing a lot of work in that statement. Especially with the stories of how many people are told just to go home without a test. Those people are not 'known' but are still exposures.
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