I'll say it again but all indications are that Lard did himself in.
Otherwise, yeah, a player should know where they stand.
Is Lewis injured because
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I'll say it again but all indications are that Lard did himself in.
Otherwise, yeah, a player should know where they stand.
Does scoring points warrant minutes?
What does Nixon do? Grill? Jacobsen?
Did you think last night's line ups were productive and have been all season?
Do you think ISU is good at defense?
Prohm is the coach, not any of us. ......HOWEVER, ISU has a kick ass fan base. If he has a vision, a method to his madness, why doesn't he share it? We WANT to come along for the ride, we DON'T want to be angry and frustrated all the time.
Those are vague responses about Lewis, I don't get it. He may be trying to develop Grill, but I don't see ANY progress there, seems like Zion will show some promise. .....and then we don't see him again. Why can't Young play in Jacobson''s spot WITH Conditt. Why don't we ever change anything up. .......many of his decisions seem unfair to the players AND the fans.
Those are vague responses about Lewis, I don't get it. He may be trying to develop Grill, but I don't see ANY progress there, seems like Zion will show some promise. .....and then we don't see him again. Why can't Young play in Jacobson''s spot WITH Conditt. Why don't we ever change anything up. .......many of his decisions seem unfair to the players AND the fans.
I want to be very precise in this post because none of us know all the details. With that said this is just an absolutely horse **** answer. I’ve said it before and I will say it again. There is a difference between helping basketball players you coach and trying to run some pseudo life coach thing.
Prohm is employed to coach the dang basketball team. He should help mold the players into better people but it can’t be done at the expense of the team. We’ve seen this basically every year he’s been here. McKay, Lard, Wigginton, and now Lewis. These guys have all had major issues with Prohm. Some of it is probably deserved. At the end of the day if they can’t get it together then kick them off the dang team. If they haven’t done enough for that then they should be playing based on their play. No pseudo suspensions or any of this other crap.
We don’t have to allow criminals to run the asylum but we can’t do this constant are they suspended crap.
I don't think anyone here is saying Lewis is going to turn us into a tournament team but he has looked and played a lot better than Nixon, Grill, Jacobsen, Griffen, and arguably Jackson. I bet the @Sigmapolis stats would back this up. I really have no problem with Grill, Griffin, and Jackson getting a lot of minutes (build for the future) but Lewis has earned more than 2 minutes per game. Just watching him he looks a lot better than most of the guys listed.
With the off court stuff. He seems like he has always been a great teammate even when not playing and I haven't seen anything on this forum about him being a problem off the court so that all is a little weird to me.
With the off court stuff. He seems like he has always been a great teammate even when not playing and I haven't seen anything on this forum about him being a problem off the court so that all is a little weird to me.
Your suspended....unless there's an injury....or someone gets in foul trouble.
What message does that actually send?
What message does that actually send?
That we have an incompetent coach who shouldn’t be coaching a power 5 program?
The best would have been if TL hit like 3 3's in those two minutes last night with two steals and then still didn't play after.
You rang...?
I hate to boil it all down to one number like that, but PRPG! is essentially a WAR for basketball (only looking at points per 100 instead of wins per 162).
Just to give you a feel for it, here is the top of the Big 12 right now --
I think that list up there should match your intuition. Dotson is going to be first-team all-Big 12, likely CPOTY, and probably on an All-American team, after all, and TH is not far behind but not likely to receive such honors (save all-Big 12) given how bad we are.
So basically laying it out --
5+ = All-American level
4+ = All-Conference level
3+ = lower-level AC/HM and/or good starter
2+ = adequate starter or good bench guy
1+ = marginal scrub
<1 = bad
<0 = lower than their "replacement level player"
We have an absolute star, a lower AC/HM level guy, and two solid starters. That it is. No wonder the team is bad. The players just are not very good.
Lewis is not great (somewhere between a scrub and a bench guy), but he is way better than Jackson and Grill right now, which are sub-replacement.
For the record, too, I would roll out this starting lineup --
Haliburton
Bolton
Lewis
Griffin
Young
I would play Conditt, Jackson, and Grill behind that.
Sorry to Nixon and Jacobson, but it is time to build for the future.
Haliburton
Bolton
Lewis
Griffin
Young
I would play Conditt, Jackson, and Grill behind that.
Sorry to Nixon and Jacobson, but it is time to build for the future.
A comment to your first statement "Why are people acting like Lewis is good?" - I think the majority of us on here that thinks Lewis should be playing are comparing what we have seen in the minutes he has played compared to the rest of the team. As mentioned what has Nixon, Grill and Jackson done that warrants more playing time than Lewis.
Your comment on Defense - Name one player on the team that is outstanding at defense? At the beginning of the year I thought that Jackson was probably our best defender, however he has fallen off once the competition has gotten more skilled.
Your comment on Lousy attitude - I don't see what goes on behind closed doors, but I do see what goes on during games. All the games I have watch, which is all of them thanks to my brother in law having an ESPN+ acct, is that he is one of very few players still cheering on the team throughout the whole game. He is one of the few players that jumps off the bench during timeouts. So please elaborate. If you know more I would like to know.
All in all from the body of work that Lewis has put forth this year when allowed to, his emotion on the bench, etc I think that should warrant playing time. Unless there is something major going on behind closed doors, Prohm needs to play him. If there is something going on, suspend him. Don't let him suit up with the team. The way that Lewis has been handled throughout the year is totally mind boggling.
I don't know if Lewis will help. He may be, at his best, an 8 ppg game.
But my goodness, at some point you have to try, right? What's lost in trying something different at this point?
But my goodness, at some point you have to try, right? What's lost in trying something different at this point?
but he’s been given chances. It’s not like he hasn’t played. I understand the frustration of last night. But he got plenty of minutes against Auburn. He played 40 minutes in the worst loss in the history of the country. He did great against Oklahoma and we won.
At this point I would rather have Griffin, Grill, and Jackson cut their teeth and be ready to step up next year that to have Lewis on the floor. There's obviously more going on than any of us know.
I'm most puzzled by the consistency of his minutes. If he is doing something off the court, why give him any minutes? What does 2 minutes accomplish?
I understand we don't have a right to know the exact scenario. However, when only one player is getting really sporadic minutes (and there's not a significant gap in productivity from other players), people paying money to watch the game are going to have questions.
I understand we don't have a right to know the exact scenario. However, when only one player is getting really sporadic minutes (and there's not a significant gap in productivity from other players), people paying money to watch the game are going to have questions.
I couldn't disagree with this anymore. At some point in the recuriting process Prohm looked Terrence's parents in the eyes and told them that he would help him grow on and off the court. I assume Prohm is doing just that.
I think Lewis needs minutes too if he is going to be here next year. But I do agree. I want minutes for the young guys.
Man I get the frustration but if you think Prohm isn't playing Lewis just because then I don't know what to tell you. Obviously there is more going on with this whole situation.
I think the problem is with the inconsistency of minutes. Looked solid against Auburn and gets a good amount of minutes then just gets 2 minutes the next game. If I was a player that would be frustrating as hell. Unless there is something going on off court that he is aware of but if that is the case why did he get a bunch of minutes against Auburn?
Yeah if it's off the court stuff then shouldn't it all or nothing?
Instead it's 'well, you can play a little bit'. Kind of weird.
