Iowa Basketball's Super Bowl
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We definitely respect your program and atmosphere. Not very impressed with the Prohm and Pollard duo. Prohm is trending down, and if you compare Pollard vs Barta head- to-head in revenue sports recently, Jamie hasn’t been good.
I’m totally ok with it being called our Super Bowl. The all-time series is 46-27. It’s weird to call something a Super Bowl if you win it 2/3 of the time and it references the wrong sport. Either way, as long as we make it Iowa’s Super Bowl, I’m good.
Thank God we don't judge the reigning National AD of the Year's success on how he does vs our little brother
Those guys would make great Backups on the team, as they are niche players. Jacobson's overall game is meh at best, and he can't come close to hanging with good bigs. Not sure what defensive numbers on Nixon you are talking about? Having a 5.4 WS in 3 years with Colorado St. isn't impressive at all. Jordan had a 9.1 WS in 3 years almost doubling Nixon.
Plus it is tough to put 2 guys in the starting lineups who can't seem to get up for games. All NCAA basketball games are equal to the committee. They aren't going to give ISU any more/less credit for a win/loss over a Iowa vs a conference opponent. Heck a loss vs Iowa at home could be the difference between making the NCAA or missing it, and they can't get up for that? Yikes!
Bohannon is literally the definition of a niche player. Lol cmon
Who is twice as good at what he does than Nixon.
Iowa State has played in the NCAA Championship Game game 3 times?
I must have missed that.
You think Bohannon is better defensively than Nixon? Lol oh my God
Nice deflection, never said that. Said Jordan has nearly doubled Nixon WS over 3 full years. Nixon would be an ok piece off the bench tho.
You said Jacobson was a niche player so he wouldn't be considered on the "All Iowa team" but say Bohannon, who is the walking definition of a niche player should be on it.
Haliburton
Wieskamp
Bolton
Garza
TBD
If this were 40 years ago and big men made a huge difference I would include Jacobson. Since it isn't 40 years ago and the game is about spacing and shooting, then yeah Jordan should absolutely be starting. Why would you want Garza and Jacobson on the court at the same time, that would be stupid. I included Jacobson in the team on the bench to spell Garza 5-8 minutes per game, that would be his role.
I don't think Jacobson or Bohannon should be on there. I think your narrative that Bohannon should be on here because he used to be able to shoot is incredibly stupid
ISU fans of all people should understand what shooters do for teams. If ISU just put one more shooter on the floor with your team this year, and the team is way, way better. Your spacing becomes better, it opens up Halliburton to drive and score or dish to an actual threat on the perimeter. It opens up Young and Jacobson to work down low. I mean I am beginning to wonder if you understand basketball if you don't get what shooters do for an offense.
He is a career 40% 3 pt shooter when healthy. I have said all along a healthy Jordan. I mean I don't want this year Jordan, because he is gonna redshirt and have another surgery, as he is playing on one hip right now. Crazy he is even able to play at all this year, kid is some kind of tough.
Fair point. If you used that as a judgement criteria, Barta is walking him on a leash. I would exclude that criteria if I was you as well.
Yes, this is clearly Iowa's Super Bowl... JorBo even admitted it, and said they had been looking forward to this game for two years.
But ISU fans, don't kid yourselves... that is not why ISU lost. They lost because Iowa is just a LOT better team this year. Granted, our guys gave a total half a$$ed effort in the game, but the talent is just not there folks.
Let's just face it... ISU has one legitimate Big 12 level starter on it's team right now. I think Bolton and Conditt can become legitimate Big 12 level starters, but they aren't there quite yet. We have nobody besides Haliburton that another team would have to prepare for, and also Haliburton is the only player on ISU that you can count on to hit an outside shot at all.
Let's just look at last year's ISU roster compared with this years.... (In bold are the Big 12/NBA level talent)....
2018
Babb
Wigginton
Horton-Tucker
Shayok
Haliburton
Jacobson
Young
Lard
Conditt
Z. Griffin
Zoran Talley
T. Lewis
Carter Boothe
Eric Steyer
Nate Schuster
Nixon- sitting out as a transfer
2019
Haliburton
Bolton
Nixon
Jacobson
Young
Conditt
Z. Griffin
Caleb Grill
T. Jackson
T. Lewis
Carter Boothe
Nate Schuster
Eric Steyer
Nate Jenkins
Javan Johnson- sitting out this year as transfer
The difference in talent level between those two rosters is HUGE!! Not only that, but this year's team has no "shooters" on it outside of Haliburton. And it doesn't help that last year we had 12 available players on scholarship, and this year we have only 10 because Leech and Anderson left before the season even started.
But ISU fans, don't kid yourselves... that is not why ISU lost. They lost because Iowa is just a LOT better team this year. Granted, our guys gave a total half a$$ed effort in the game, but the talent is just not there folks.
Let's just face it... ISU has one legitimate Big 12 level starter on it's team right now. I think Bolton and Conditt can become legitimate Big 12 level starters, but they aren't there quite yet. We have nobody besides Haliburton that another team would have to prepare for, and also Haliburton is the only player on ISU that you can count on to hit an outside shot at all.
Let's just look at last year's ISU roster compared with this years.... (In bold are the Big 12/NBA level talent)....
2018
Babb
Wigginton
Horton-Tucker
Shayok
Haliburton
Jacobson
Young
Lard
Conditt
Z. Griffin
Zoran Talley
T. Lewis
Carter Boothe
Eric Steyer
Nate Schuster
Nixon- sitting out as a transfer
2019
Haliburton
Bolton
Nixon
Jacobson
Young
Conditt
Z. Griffin
Caleb Grill
T. Jackson
T. Lewis
Carter Boothe
Nate Schuster
Eric Steyer
Nate Jenkins
Javan Johnson- sitting out this year as transfer
The difference in talent level between those two rosters is HUGE!! Not only that, but this year's team has no "shooters" on it outside of Haliburton. And it doesn't help that last year we had 12 available players on scholarship, and this year we have only 10 because Leech and Anderson left before the season even started.
If you'd rather have Barta as your AD over JP, that's all the evidence I need to know that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
