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I dont think he is the right man for the job, his lack of offensive basketball knowledge is pretty bad. Iowa played a 3-2 zone a lot, and how do you beat a 3-2 zone? You put your best passer at the high post and flash the baseline and get to the corners. We did this very little, I remember one specific time we did it and it was an easy bucket for Solo. But just like last year this team shouldnt be holding the ball for 25 seconds then jacking up a deep 3. We shoot like 28% from the three point line, there has to be plays drawn up that allow some easy looks. I also dont think his substitutions arent very good, last night start of the 2nd half Solo was leading this team back then they took him out of the game and he didnt come back in until it was too late. You have to feed the hot hand.
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I'm not thinking he is anything special as a coach, and although I've defended him in the past, I am cooling on him just a bit. Not that I think we need to consider running him out of town though. I don't think we could get anyone better currently. He recruits at a high level and I do think he's a decent leader of young men. The problem seems to be x's and o's as others have alleged. We seem to get out schemed frequently. This could be alleviated by hiring a decent assistant or associate head coach with a nose for that kind of stuff.
I honestly think he can achieve similar success as coaches like Scott Drew or Bruce Weber, and those guys are all pretty qualified head basketball coaches.
Some of the motivational/personality management issues are concerning (Lard, McKay, Wigginton) but I believe it has more to do with Steve sincerely trying to help these guys out as people too, and not just ball players. And I respect him for that, even if it occasionally gets in the way of team success.
I honestly think he can achieve similar success as coaches like Scott Drew or Bruce Weber, and those guys are all pretty qualified head basketball coaches.
Some of the motivational/personality management issues are concerning (Lard, McKay, Wigginton) but I believe it has more to do with Steve sincerely trying to help these guys out as people too, and not just ball players. And I respect him for that, even if it occasionally gets in the way of team success.
No option for 'I'm not sure what to think'.
Trends started to really form last year and last night was a reflection of that.
Right now I'm putting him in the same category as CPR except with better recruiting. Likeable and some great moments, but what's really happening with the basketball program?
Trends started to really form last year and last night was a reflection of that.
Right now I'm putting him in the same category as CPR except with better recruiting. Likeable and some great moments, but what's really happening with the basketball program?
well it is more about ISU shooting, Iowa hit something like 6 or 7 3's to start the game, with ISU's lack of shooting it was pretty much over at that point.
This would be interesting. A friend of mine who played for Johnny told me Orr was rarely at practice. He said Orr was the game coach. Johnny relied heavily on his assistants for drilling the Xs and Os.
Does CSP need to make a significant change with his staff?
I was there for the first Johnny Orr years and I can tell you it is much more fun to root for and watch a team of underdogs win than it is to watch a bunch of more talented players half ass their way through the season playing hero ball to impress the NBA scouts.
Prohm seems like a great guy and his recruiting has been good. I do wonder if he is a "my way or the highway" type of coach. He seems to have problems with players who might not share, as young adults, the moral standards that he espouses. I'm not sure he could have gotten along with a DeAndre Kane or a Bryce Dejean-Jones. Lard was one he obviously could not get along with. That may have been Lard's fault, but it may have been that Lard just couldn't live according to Prohm's rules.
This is where I have been for 2+ years. Those issues were there even when the team was winning; the sum of the parts seemed greater than the whole, and there were inexplicable performances at times.
Last night I gave up. He apparently isn't going to get it, at least not here.
Agree...but dang, he needs to figure it out defensively....such a liability. If he could just get a little better in that space, he’s got some tools to help this team
I get what you're saying, but Iowa only made 4 3's in the first half (all in the first 4 min). Iowa's defense owned the first half.
I agree on Lewis. Only thing he did yesterday that pissed me off was shoot a 3 that looked good as he released it, and juuust rimmed out. Had he followed his shot, he would've had an easy put back. But he was already 3/4 of the way back down the court thinking it had gone in...
All in all though, he was really the only highlight last night
I guess you could say that. Honestly though, our guys helped them out by missing pretty open looks. It was part of Iowa's scheme to let us shoot them though, and shoot them they did. We didn't really MAKE Iowa play d
I'm willing to bet large sums of money that each and every kid on that team knows exactly where they stand with coach and the program. Same with CMC.
Go back to every in game post and see how much crap we spew at him for KOs, FGs, procedure penalties, throwing when we should be running, running when we should be throwing, not going for the throat going into half, giving up points going into half... Large amount of posts about lack of discipline which is a coaching failure they say.
Little bit of recency bias I'd say even though CMC's team under achieved this year according to some.
ISU certainly helped that Iowa D , again choosing to shoot 3 after 3 after 3. I said this before and will say it again, I know analytics says a 15 foot jumper is a bad shot, but when you shoot the 3 ball like ISU, analytics need to be tossed out the window and play like the 3 point line does not exist
