Boomers cant afford they houses. boo hoo

chadly82

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The problem here is that most of the time any gains are just going to get reallocated to an inflated purchase price. Sure, there are people who are good at flipping but that's a whole different discussion.
Right and the only reason in my case it's an "investment" is because I was single when I bought at 129,000. I just recently sold at 179000 minus tax proration and concessions. My net proceeds was amazing and currently live in a 2 bd townhome my wife bought before we got married. Currently holding until I can build a bigger nicer home through my company and save on the builder fee and large down payment. Worked for me but not everyone like you mentioned as a whole.
 

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This is what I do not get about people hoping for high prices.

Higher selling prices are generally eaten by higher purchasing prices.

You are a rat running on a treadmill.

The only ones who win are the real estate agents. And, indeed, that is often the point.

people like marc charter. that should make everyone puke there faces off
 

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people like marc charter. that should make everyone puke there faces off
Honestly there are a lot of people that can win though. I have a friend that had a house purchased 5 years ago, single woman. Put about 5k into the home on updates and ended up clearing 67k last year then rented an apartment because she was still not married with kids. Shes married now and moved in with her husband in their current home. Now right now.....would I want to be a 1st time homebuyer? Nope nope nope
 

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I keep seeing this pop up and often wondered the same myself. How do people afford these houses?

1. Killer jobs
2. Help from mom and dad (or other family member)
3. Inheritance

This topic comes up a lot and people don’t seem to understand the prevalence of factors 2 & 3. My grandma is 92 she can’t rid of her money fast enough right now. She wants to get as much of it out to the grand kids and great grandkids while she is here to see it put to use.

Another one that people miss is there are a lot of people that own or operate “family” businesses and almost every major purchase they make is written off for business.
 

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This topic comes up a lot and people don’t seem to understand the prevalence of factors 2 & 3. My grandma is 92 she can’t rid of her money fast enough right now. She wants to get as much of it out to the grand kids and great grandkids while she is here to see it put to use.

Another one that people miss is there are a lot of people that own or operate “family” businesses and almost every major purchase they make is written off for business.

Bingo on both points.

1. My inlaws give us a "gift" every year because they'd rather see us enjoy it now rather than not get to see us use it when they are gone. In fact got the 2019 check yesterday.

2. Ding Ding Ding
 

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Austin has gotten really pricey on housing costs.

Yes, we just sold the house we bought in 2000. We bought a new one in 2011 and kept the old one as a rental property. We just sold it for >3X what we paid in 2000. We did put some money into improvements, but no changes to the floorplan, no added sq ft, etc. I still love Austin, but it has become a bit too expensive. Nothing like California, NY, etc, but it has become one of the more expensive places not on a coast.
 
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ArgentCy

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Bingo on both points.

1. My inlaws give us a "gift" every year because they'd rather see us enjoy it now rather than not get to see us use it when they are gone. In fact got the 2019 check yesterday.

2. Ding Ding Ding

Gee I hope those are all legit business deductions... :rolleyes:
 

ArgentCy

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You know they aren't but as someone told me along time ago "If are going to cheat on taxes, do it on expenses and not revenue. If you are caught doing it on revenue you go to jail, if they catch you on expenses you just have to pay it back."

LOL

I found some more felonies for my everyone is a felon argument. If not a felon then at least a criminal with misdemeanors. That doesn't make much sense but I think that probably developed because it is much easier to track incomes and that can't afford the work to track your expenses. But that is changing with computers.
 

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I found some more felonies for my everyone is a felon argument. If not a felon then at least a criminal with misdemeanors. That doesn't make much sense but I think that probably developed because it is much easier to track incomes and that can't afford the work to track your expenses. But that is changing with computers.

His reasoning was hiding income is a way to under report income which the IRS considers tax evasion and they will attempt to prosecute. Overstating expenses, will most of the time, just get those expenses disallowed, have to recalculate taxes without those expenses and pay back any amounts with penalties and interest.
 

ArgentCy

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His reasoning was hiding income is a way to under report income which the IRS considers tax evasion and they will attempt to prosecute. Overstating expenses, will most of the time, just get those expenses disallowed, have to recalculate taxes without those expenses and pay back any amounts with penalties and interest.

It probably has more to do with intent. Probably easier to prove someone was hiding income on purpose as opposed to not knowing that a giant boat is not a business expense (I mean unless they claim to be fishermen).
 

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It probably has more to do with intent. Probably easier to prove someone was hiding income on purpose as opposed to not knowing that a giant boat is not a business expense (I mean unless they claim to be fishermen).

I think a boat gets categorized as marketing? Or client entertainment? Maybe client development? How about focus group research?
 

isufbcurt

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I think a boat gets categorized as marketing? Or client entertainment? Maybe client development? How about focus group research?

Depends, I know someone (not a client of mine) that just puts that sort of thing in Cost of Goods Sold. He said it maybe moves his gross profit % a couple percent so nothing that is going to put it out of whack.
 

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We're paying for a lot more on a daily basis then our grandparents did. Cell phones (and their plans), internet, SuperFanatic T2 access, etc. Some of these things are becoming less of a "want to have" and more of a "have to have." I guess you could argue that you are likely not paying for a landline anymore, but those are cheaper than your cell phone plan (I think, I don't have one).

Not only this, but many of our grandparents had gardens, that allowed them to cut down their food expenses. Many grandmothers did not work fulltime, so she was home cooking the night time meal as opposed to ordering out, because she got home late from work.

My wife's parents were like this, he worked in a factory 20 miles away, every morning her mom got up and fixed his lunch and a large breakfast, eggs, bacon the whole deal. When he got home from work, he would work in the garden, it was his hobby. Picking weeds, and such. My MIL canned a lot of stuff they grew to eat later in the year. It was a joy to eat dinner at their house, everything was homemade, lots of steak, potatoes and gravy, fresh baked bread. My MIL worked part time at the local care center. My FIL always had at least 2 hot meals a day at the dinning room table, always with a slice of homemade pie or cake for dessert.
It was just a different America, you could actually have a nice life on a single income or a full time and the other part time job. Those days are gone.
 
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