Nice Shayok story in the Washington Post

[SCyclone]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...a-state/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.74ff004cfa2a

Nice write up on MS from the WaPo. Sounds like this was a win/win for both Marial and ISU. I for one am very glad we have him! (I just wish it had been all 4 years.....)

Enjoy.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

I had forgotten that he was committed to Marquette first. Marquette has been kind to us over the years.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I've been excited about him from the moment I heard he was interested in ISU. I had only really seen him in their tournament game against Wilmington (?) but he stood out like, wow, who is that guy? He was just dominant.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Sit-one, play-one guys still might be the corner three/market inefficiency we need. Most programs do not want to use up a scholarship on a guy you only get to play for one season. Keeping one or two around like we are could work out nicely for the program.

 

[VeloClone]

Sit-one, play-one guys still might be the corner three/market inefficiency we need. Most programs do not want to use up a scholarship on a guy you only get to play for one season. Keeping one or two around like we are could work out nicely for the program.

Really no one (except Fran) plays their entire bench so it is a good way to have good players familiar with your system (since they use the sit out year getting familiar with it), have one less player to keep happy with game minutes and have another really good player for practice. I think having one or two should be the norm.

 

[SCyclone]

And you can tell Shayok made good use of his time last season, too.

 

[intrepid27]

Nice thing about those sit one year players is you get a quality scout team.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Depth is overrated in games.

Depth is underrated for practice.

 

[SCyclone]

I often wonder if Tony Bennett wishes he had kept Marial around. I doubt if he ever perceived him as an 18-20 PPG guy.

 

[LLCoolCY]

I often wonder if Tony Bennett wishes he had kept Marial around. I doubt if he ever perceived him as an 18-20 PPG guy.

To be fair Bennett's slow offense and pack line defense fundamentals doesn't allow for high scoring averages. Also Shayok was on a team with multiple options including Malcom Brogdon who was their primary option and competing for NPOY. That doesn't factor in Marial wouldn't still be the primary option with Guy, Hunter and Jerome competing for that role on the roster. One of the major reasons Shayok wanted a new school to showcase his skills (not UVA) and glad he chose ISU to do so.

 

[AuH2O]

Sit-one, play-one guys still might be the corner three/market inefficiency we need. Most programs do not want to use up a scholarship on a guy you only get to play for one season. Keeping one or two around like we are could work out nicely for the program.

Agree 100%. Everybody is in on the grad transfers and sit one/play 2-3 guys.
I'm not so sure eating a scholarship for 2 years on a sit one/play one guy isn't more efficient than a grad transfer. A guy in his second year in the program is likely to hit the ground running as part of a team he's practiced with vs a grad transfer. It might be worth the extra year on scholarship. Because other programs are hesitant to go after sit one/play one guys, ISU can be one of the best programs in that market.

 

[HFCS]

I've been excited about him from the moment I heard he was interested in ISU. I had only really seen him in their tournament game against Wilmington (?) but he stood out like, wow, who is that guy? He was just dominant.

It wasn't hard to look at his minutes, his scoring average and UVA's slow pace of play and see it was a player who was a scoring machine stuck in a system where he couldn't max it out.

 

[SolarGarlic]

To be fair Bennett's slow offense and pack line defense fundamentals doesn't allow for high scoring averages. Also Shayok was on a team with multiple options including Malcom Brogdon who was their primary option and competing for NPOY. That doesn't factor in Marial wouldn't still be the primary option with Guy, Hunter and Jerome competing for that role on the roster. One of the major reasons Shayok wanted a new school to showcase his skills (not UVA) and glad he chose ISU to do so.

Shayok is a talented guy, but not a great fit for UVA. Shayok is much too aggressive with the ball in his hands. His high turnover rate is the kryptonite to a slow-it-down, pack line defense. He couldn't have picked a better team to transfer to. It seems like UVA fans liked Shayok, but found him frustrating. Sounds familiar. He helps us more than he could help them.

 

[Cyrealist]

He's great if you like sloppy, undisciplined basketball. I'll be glad when he's gone.

 

[GTO]

I've been excited about him from the moment I heard he was interested in ISU. I had only really seen him in their tournament game against Wilmington (?) but he stood out like, wow, who is that guy? He was just dominant.

This is exactly where he also stood out to me. I watched him single handedly destroy Wilmington in the NCAA tourney. When I heard he was transferring here I was ecstatic.

 

[SCyclone]

He's great if you like sloppy, undisciplined basketball. I'll be glad when he's gone.

Yeah, me too. Cause we'd be about 8-18 without him.
(SMH)

 

[Cyrealist]

Yeah, me too. Cause we'd be about 8-18 without him.
(SMH)

Does he make the people around him better? Basketball is a team game. Prima donnas out to fill their stat sheet won't create a consistently winning team.

 

[IndyClone15]

Does he make the people around him better?

Yes, he does. The team doesn’t have a leader, but he is the closest thing IMO.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Does he make the people around him better? Basketball is a team game. Prima donnas out to fill their stat sheet won't create a consistently winning team.

He makes the team a lot better.
His efficiency isn’t as high as you’d like, but still similar to several recent high volume Cyclones.

 

[JP4CY]

Does he make the people around him better? Basketball is a team game. Prima donnas out to fill their stat sheet won't create a consistently winning team.

Agreed. The Cavaliers have historically been awesome without Lebron.