Bracketology- Joe Lunardi

[JackCyclone]

Sorry if already posted/discussed, but wanna hear what some of ya'll think of this.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

I normally really enjoy following Joe Lunardi's Bracketology on ESPN throughout the season and generally agree with his placement of Iowa State over the past 6-7 years as the seasons have progressed, but this year I'm not quite sure I understand why he seems to be undervaluing the Clones pretty consistently.

Currently on the 5 seed line and I think we've been there the last handful of brackets he's released. I would guess right now Iowa State should probably be closer to being right on the border of a 3/4, especially considering their NCAA Net ranking currently- #13. More curious than anything.

 

[Cycsk]

He instantly discredits himself with Kansas as a #3 seed!

 

[cycart]

Yeah, I've been confused by that as well and just chuckle at Palm on CBS having ISU as a six seed.

 

[SerenityNow]

I don't get too worked up over it with this many games left in the season.

If ISU keeps playing well and doesn't have any bad losses, I think they go into the Big 12 tournament a solid 3 or 4.

 

[surly]

These projections are as valid and valuable as the paper they're written on. Be glad you're not a K-State fan if you value them one twit.

 

[DiehardClone]

I don't get too worked up over it with this many games left in the season.

If ISU keeps playing well and doesn't have any bad losses, I think they go into the Big 12 tournament a solid 3 or 4.

Keep winning and a 2 seed could be within reach, depending of course on how other teams perform.

 

[discydisc]

 

[VeloClone]

This is all I have to say to Lunardi and Palm.

 

[MartyFine]

ISU doesn't seem like a 5 seed based on these rankings, but whatever...

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

https://kenpom.com/

 

[CyArob]

Bracketmatrix has us as the 2nd 5 seed.

 

[leschmick1785]

Anyone else notice that Des Moines was a site for the KC regional in his last bracket and now its not? Are the first and second round locations moveable or did ESPN actually have the bracket set up wrong? ISU needing to be a two to be in DSM is a little discouraging.

 

[cloneteach]

Anyone else notice that Des Moines was a site for the KC regional in his last bracket and now its not? Are the first and second round locations moveable or did ESPN actually have the bracket set up wrong? ISU needing to be a two to be in DSM is a little discouraging.

The first/second round matchups are not attached to certain regions.

 

[RonBurgundy]

Bracketmatrix has us as the 2nd 5 seed.

Yep, I like following bracketmatrix as it is a composite of 100+ predictions (including Lunardi). But you cannot put much stock into them until about 2 weeks out.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

A lot of these prognosticators are basically sheep. I hope ISU makes the top 16 of the initial list the committee releases tomorrow. Then, magically, you will see more respect from Lunardi, et al.

 

[Cydkar]

He instantly discredits himself with Kansas as a #3 seed!

Neutral-court wins over Tennessee and Michigan State will get you some credit. They don't drop teams just because they are struggling. They still have a very good resume'.

 

[cloneteach]

He instantly discredits himself with Kansas as a #3 seed!

Like it or not, Kansas currently has the resume of a 3 seed. Will they hold onto that? TBD, but wins over MSU, Marquette, Villanova, Tennessee, ISU and Texas Tech have to count for something.

 

[Cydkar]

ISU doesn't seem like a 5 seed based on these rankings, but whatever...

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

https://kenpom.com/

That's not how seeds are determined. Just part of the equation.

 

[leschmick1785]

The first/second round matchups are not attached to certain regions.

Oh really... pardon my ignorance, but how do they make the final determination about which locations are tied to which regionals?

 

[megamanxzero35]

Oh really... pardon my ignorance, but how do they make the final determination about which locations are tied to which regionals?

By whatever teams are assigned there. Lets say for example a good midwest team is placed in the West region. They might get a more favorable first and second round location, even if it doesn't make sense to place Columbus/Des Moines in the West. Or maybe a team like Virginia just goes on an absolute tear and gets the number 1 overall seed. They'd probably get the South Carolina first round site and than the Washington DC Regional for the East. The committee tries to help out the top 4 seed lines as much as possible.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Neutral-court wins over Tennessee and Michigan State will get you some credit. They don't drop teams just because they are struggling. They still have a very good resume'.

No, but they may drop you when you no longer have the same roster. Those wins may be discounted some by the Doke injury and now Vick being out.

At least when they dropped Cincinnati to a #2 seed, they could pretend like Martin’s injury didn’t significantly change that team. KU is 6-5 without Doke? Now Vick is gone.

 

[MartyFine]

That's not how seeds are determined. Just part of the equation.

What is the rest of the equation?