Keyshawn Feazell Decommitts

[FinalFourCy]

Lol good line.

You’re right that those dudes were last grasps. I’d also add Simeon Carter and Brady Ernst to those list of “take a shot” players.

Lard, Young and Conditt they had more time to evaluate and so far they’ve paid off.

Agree.

The success rate on anyone they weren’t “forced” to take has been high for both, although there are more high level guards for the staff to spot. These guys cut their teeth finding good players that high majors overlooked.

Transfer recruiting is more connection based speed dating than evaluation imo. Kasongo is the true biggest miss, plus getting caught in a cycle of closing down the bar.

 

[srjclone]

Prohm guard evaluation = money
Prohm big man evaluation = so/so

I think evaluating Big Men is a tough job. So many big dudes dominate in high school because they are just that, big. Sometimes it's really hard to truly evaluate how they will impact at the next level because they are just soo much bigger than most of their competition. That being said, big men development is as big of a task as any. If Stokes or Feazell came here, would we think of them as misses? Would prohm have used them differently than they are being used? Would they have developed the same? Tough to say.

 

[Messi]

Transfer recruiting is more connection based speed dating than evaluation imo. Kasongo is the true biggest miss, plus getting caught in a cycle of closing down the bar.

Speaking of transfer big men, crazy to me that Ed Morrow hasn’t been as impactful as i thought he would at Marquette.

5.6 ppg 3.7 rpg in 13.5 mpg

That being said, Marquette has some really good big men he’s stuck behind.

 

[Halincandenza]

Stokes is only a freshman right? I think the jury is still out on how good he will be.
Feazell doesn't look to be that good.

 

[3GenClone]

Lol good line.

You’re right that those dudes were last grasps. I’d also add Simeon Carter and Brady Ernst to those list of “take a shot” players.

Lard, Young and Conditt they had more time to evaluate and so far they’ve paid off.

Senior year Nader has to be one of Prohms best player-development projects. Averaged 5 pts a game under Hoiberg and nearly 13 pts a game under Prohm and became a 2nd round draft pick.

 

[srjclone]

Senior year Nader has to be one of Prohms best player-development projects. Averaged 5 pts a game under Hoiberg and nearly 13 pts a game under Prohm and became a 2nd round draft pick.

Nader was definitely his best "project". tbh I think his work with Monte, although more subtle, has done wonders for his NBA career as well. We all knew Monte was good, but wondered if he could take it to that next level. He became more confident and less afraid to make mistakes (bonus that he doesn't make mistakes either way) and it showed/shows in his game.

 

[MartinCy]

Stokes is only a freshman right? I think the jury is still out on how good he will be.
Feazell doesn't look to be that good.

Redshirt Freshmen this year. Spent his redshirt season rehabbing a torn ACL last year. That's probably a no bueno thing for a heavier set guy like him. It looks like their main big is a senior this year FWIW. So maybe next year he breaks out.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Lard, Jacobson, Young, and a bright-looking-future Conditt, will go a long way to make up for last minute grabs like Kasongo (Hoiberg signee anyway?) Holden, and Carter, Brase and Beverly

 

[Messi]

Lard, Jacobson, Young, and a bright-looking-future Conditt, will go a long way to make up for last minute grabs like Kasongo (Hoiberg signee anyway?) Holden, and Carter, Brase and Beverly

Kasongo was a Prohm signee

 

[isubb79]

I'm pretty sure Kasongo was way after Hoiberg left.

 

[Knownothing]

Senior year Nader has to be one of Prohms best player-development projects. Averaged 5 pts a game under Hoiberg and nearly 13 pts a game under Prohm and became a 2nd round draft pick.

Nader killed it at Northern Illinois before coming here. It was more of a situation that Nader only averaged 5 a game. He was not the go to guy that year.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Nader killed it at Northern Illinois before coming here. It was more of a situation that Nader only averaged 5 a game. He was not the go to guy that year.

Nader didn’t kill it at NIU, he was a bad volume guy, in the MAC.

Nader finally matured and after graduating spent a ton of time in the gym.

 

[Messi]

Nader didn’t kill it at NIU, he was a bad volume guy, in the MAC.

Nader finally matured and after graduating spent a ton of time in the gym.

Which worries me for Nixon. He was also a high volume shooter at CSU.

I think Prohms track record with guards gives me confidence that Nixon can be a 10-12 ppg for ISU in 2019-20.

 

[ComCY]

Which worries me for Nixon. He was also a high volume shooter at CSU.

I think Prohms track record with guards gives me confidence that Nixon can be a 10-12 ppg for ISU in 2019-20.

And probably 2 steals a game, too. He had a great nose for that at CSU.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Which worries me for Nixon. He was also a high volume shooter at CSU.

I think Prohms track record with guards gives me confidence that Nixon can be a 10-12 ppg for ISU in 2019-20.

Nixon wasn’t as good as his per game numbers, but Nader at NIU made Nixon look efficient imo.

I think with Haliburton and THT’s help he’ll be better, or at least as better than most of the would-be sophomores (that were available last spring).

 

[MartinCy]

Which worries me for Nixon. He was also a high volume shooter at CSU.

I think Prohms track record with guards gives me confidence that Nixon can be a 10-12 ppg for ISU in 2019-20.

Kind of what FinalFourCy said but if you're counting on Nixon being our primary guy, we're in trouble. However, if we have Haliburton and one of or both THT & Lindell as more primary options on offense, Nixon can be real nice tertiary piece. The excellent free throw shooting hopefully translates to more efficient three point shooting when he's surrounded by better players/an off season to improve his game.

How good Haliburton is so quickly has kind of eased the pressure on the future of the backcourt in general though.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Kind of what FinalFourCy said but if you're counting on Nixon being our primary guy, we're in trouble. However, if we have Haliburton and one of or both THT & Lindell as more primary options on offense, Nixon can be real nice tertiary piece. The excellent free throw shooting hopefully translates to more efficient three point shooting when he's surrounded by better players/an off season to improve his game.

How good Haliburton is so quickly has kind of eased the pressure on the future of the backcourt in general though.

I’m hoping for something like senior year Naz, although he’ll probably not be quite that efficient with his liking of tough 2P FGs.

We’ll see, but my guess for Nixon, if THT returns and Wigginton leaves, is low 20’s usage, 35% to 40% 3P shooting (bump from taking less bad ones), and hopefully a higher 3PA rate. Although he is from the suburbs, he has some Chicago toughness to him, and I’m not sure we have a better shooter coming off screens/catch-and-shoot.

Hmm, maybe Chris Allen is a better comparison, with a higher usage. Even if Haliburton increases to Babb’s utilization and Lard to 2017-18 level, Nixon will almost need to be close to 25%. Although we’re we have good numbers at all positions, there’s certainly room for a major contributor this spring.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Assuming everybody comes back, reworking the rotation...

Weiler-Babb // Haliburton
Haliburton // ??? 1
Shayok // Wigginton
Horton-Tucker // Horton-Tucker
Jacobson // Jacobson
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Wigginton // ??? 2
Lard // Lard

??? 1 and ??? 2 are whoever are the next two guards/wings up in the rotation.

Nixon? Jackson? Leech? Lewis? Griffin?

Nixon would fit well as the ??? 1 above as a defensive specialist who is not asked to score too often and keeps the ball moving -- sort of like Haliburton this year.

Have to work Conditt and Young in there somewhere? And Luke Anderson?

Lose either/both of Wigginton and Horton-Tucker, then you need a #3 and #4.

 

[IASTATE07]

Another big man I'll be curious to see how he turns out is Race Thompson. Went to Indiana a year early to redshirt and I think has been injured this season.

 

[CloneGuy8]

Juiston had a nice year last year, but got hurt this year. And shockingly, UNLV sucks which is weird because UNLV fans led me to believe they would be perennial final 4 contenders.