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TykeClone

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I curious how good super computers are since CPU mining isn't as good as ASICs or GPUs. Obviously it would be better 1v1 but curious what the cutoff is

Supercomputers aren't just a normal PC on amphetamines. They're designed from the ground up for that kind of work.
 

TykeClone

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They are purpose built for whatever they were designed for. I bet you IBMs Watson would do terrible at mining

And at simulating nuclear explosions. I would bet that a machine that is good at those kinds of simulations would be tremendously good at mining.
 

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Supercomputers aren't just a normal PC on amphetamines. They're designed from the ground up for that kind of work.

ASICs are designed from the ground up to mine. It's what they do. Supercomputers are designed to have a lot of processing power but they aren't anywhere near as efficient as ASICs.
 
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ISUCyclones2015

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And at simulating nuclear explosions. I would bet that a machine that is good at those kinds of simulations would be tremendously good at mining.
Looking at some articles I decided to calculate it.

An i7 3930K gives you about 60 MH/s the IBM Sequoia (6th most powerful computer in the world) is about 175,000 of those which equates to 10,500,000 MH/s or 10,500 GH/s. An ASIC does 14000 GH/s.

That running 24/7 gets you 0.351920 bitcoin in a year or ~$3,000 a year. Sequoia costs ~$25,000 in energy per day.

Not even close to worth it.
 

MeowingCows

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I've wondered how many of the world's supercomputers have been turned over to mining by some tech. They flip a switch when no one is running experiments, or take them down for "testing" and bam!, cryptocurrency mined right to their wallets.
I would guess basically none, at least not intentionally. They wouldn't instantly be very efficient miners, and the cost of operating said computers at max load 24/7 just for mining wouldn't be profitable.
 

TykeClone

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I would guess basically none, at least not intentionally. They wouldn't instantly be very efficient miners, and the cost of operating said computers at max load 24/7 just for mining wouldn't be profitable.

Looking at some articles I decided to calculate it.

An i7 3930K gives you about 60 MH/s the IBM Sequoia (6th most powerful computer in the world) is about 175,000 of those which equates to 10,500,000 MH/s or 10,500 GH/s. An ASIC does 14000 GH/s.

That running 24/7 gets you 0.351920 bitcoin in a year or ~$3,000 a year. Sequoia costs ~$25,000 in energy per day.

Not even close to worth it.

But when you're stealing those cycles from your government....
 

MeowingCows

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But when you're stealing those cycles from your government....
...you go to jail when you get caught? At least that's what's likely happening to these guys.

That being said, I do know a few people mining from their dorms/apartments at ISU... the ones with electricity included in their rent, at least. That's just smart business management on their end.
 

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...you go to jail when you get caught? At least that's what's likely happening to these guys.

That being said, I do know a few people mining from their dorms/apartments at ISU... the ones with electricity included in their rent, at least. That's just smart business management on their end.
That's why I wanted in getting into mining because I don't have to pay for electricity at my apartment but it costs way too much to start mining.
 
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Mtowncyclone13

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Doesn't say I can't do it in the lease

I know, but your lease also doesn't say the owner has to renew next year.

Plus i can almost gaurantee the lease says you can'tt operate a business from the unit without permission. Any landlord could easily prove Bitcoin mining is for profit, therefore a business.
 

Playboi Carti

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I know, but your lease also doesn't say the owner has to renew next year.

Plus i can almost gaurantee the lease says you can'tt operate a business from the unit without permission. Any landlord could easily prove Bitcoin mining is for profit, therefore a business.
Not renewing anyways. idk if this is true
 
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Huh? The SEC and CFTC have both said that they are actively working to have oversight on crypto markets.

Most of the oversight conversation has been on ICO and lending exchanges like Bitconnect. While they expressed interest in building a regulation framework they said for now they wanted to let the market grow and address issues as they arise. Most articles quote that the chairman of the SEC was Bullish on the value of blockchain.

"We owe it this new generation to respect their enthusiasm about virtual currencies with a thoughtful and balanced response, not a dismissive one.” - J. Christopher Giancarlo, chairman of the US Commodities and Futures Trading Commission.
 

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