Breaking the bank to support non-revenue sports is about as smart as trying to bring back baseball.
Football >>>>men's basketball>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>every other sport.
Coach Campbell
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Breaking the bank to support non-revenue sports is about as smart as trying to bring back baseball.
Football >>>>men's basketball>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>every other sport.
There is literally nothing anybody on this board can do. We should absolutely be enjoying the ride here.
As for those that say, well another school and fire you on a whim, why wouldn't you stay here? Because we can fire guys too. Let's not forget, we signed Rhoads to a 10 year deal. Basically 3 years later we all regretted it.
I agree completely. I get we want/need to have competent non-revenue sports, but the best way to do that is by investing in FB and MBB, particularly in times of potential turning points.
Nothing? Well, I think I can make some sacrifices and donate more if that means retaining this staff. The savings from not needing to drink after Cyclone games is at least a couple hundred.
Two guys in their 30’s generating millions is impressive.
If CMC is as good as I think he is, then he’s worth way more than that. He’s worth some of the hundreds of millions of dollars we’ve missed out on by having a brand associated with bad football due to previous decades of not investing in football.
Retaining a coach that can consistently win is important to the University and even state imo. Unfortunately we’re a few decades removed from the State being allowed to directly pay for that.
This is correct. Jamie’s job is to give the coaches the resources to be successful.
There are a lot of places that just flat out have more.
Iowa State fans have never been willing to donate to the levels required to be able to compete in arms races with the upper BCS schools.
We shouldn't listen to that opinionated assho*e Kirk Herbstreit.
Obviously CF has no control what goes on. Sit back, enjoy this season.
I, for one, believe Campbell is very invested to this program. The way he speaks of the fan base itself tells me a lot. I think JP will do the right thing as well and we won't be worrying about this when the season is over, either.
Obviously CF has no control what goes on. Sit back, enjoy this season.
I, for one, believe Campbell is very invested to this program. The way he speaks of the fan base itself tells me a lot. I think JP will do the right thing as well and we won't be worrying about this when the season is over, either.
Give the man what he's worth. He is showing that a football program can be built in Ames without building an airport.
Something we can do is make sure that these last two games are sold out. No excuse to not have a full house the rest of the way in Ames.
This is ******** statement and you should feel bad for making it. Iowa State football has one of the worst records and history in ALL of college football. For decades, the school has made decisions against the best interests of winning.
ISU fans have more than held up their fair share over the years. With the lack of success, no one would be surprised if the stands looked like Kansas, but we continue to fill the stadium waiting for payback. We've been kicked in the nuts by false hope so many times, there are a lot of people waiting to see if this is real. If it is, you will see fans donate like never before.
That is sort of true. If it came down to losing CMC and Co, or paying an extra few hundred more, one would think we could do it. If it’s itemized like that, I’d hope I’m one of 30,000 or so that would pay $15 more a game for a good football.
But it’s been less about the common fan not donating enough for the arms race and more about history. If you were passionate about college sports, you were not likely to be an Iowa State fan.
Those passionate fans are often your bigger donors. A lack of big donors is perhaps a demographic composition thing, but it’s also a constituency problem. A lot of people in this state made money in ag or engineering that should be Iowa State fans that either are not passionate about Iowa State sports, or worse, are Iowa donors. In the formative decades of the arms race we were Iowa State College with the State (and therefore state) not caring and not wanting the Cyclones to be supported to an equal level.
I think we’ve made tremendous progress in overcoming the slow start. If CMC were to lead us to several good years in a row, we have a fanbase now that would see revenues go up enough to match the increase in salary.
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Go to a place like Tennessee or Nebraska with unreal expectations and get fired after 3 years or stay at a place like ISU where you can get a statue if you win 8 games a year.
Tough decision.
Tough decision.
A beloved coach who accomplished some things but had clearly hit a wall is let go. Up-and-coming coach surprisingly comes to Iowa State. Brings a tight group of long time friends with him. Recruiting immediately picks up. Obvious success on the field means staff won't be here long, but it's ok because they've clearly done their job and elevated the program. Guys, I think I have CW's next great click bait article:
"Matt Campbell Is What The Chizik Era Was Supposed To Look Like"
"Matt Campbell Is What The Chizik Era Was Supposed To Look Like"
Keeping CMC and paying him whatever we need to within reason is maybe the single most important decision in the history of ISU athletics the next 5 years..by 2022 we will know if this conference will be around or not and having a successful/winning fball program with greater national exposure will be, without a doubt, a critical factor to maintain our P5 status(p4) status IMO. Having a successful fball program that draws an audience and fans will be critical next 5 years unlike any previous 5 years.
I think it's become obvious that we'll have to show our financial commitment to Coach Campbell after the end of this season. I think Travis and Heather had a good discussion on this, outside of some big time power 5 school jobs that won't be open this offseason just who is going to have an opening that is a better job or situation that what he has at ISU right now? I'm hoping that he was sincere when he took this job that he felt ISU was a special place and a sleeping giant. Our fan base has always been loyal and supportive even through some awful years, can only imagine how much better it can get if we can sustain some success. Football is the main money generator for the athletics department so keeping this thing going should be a priority for everyone as if this staff can sustain success through the next several years any raise we give coach Campbell and his staff should hopefully pay for itself in increased revenue from the support the football team will get.
We as fans need to do our part and pack the Jack for these last 2 home games and give this team the home field advantage they deserve. Saw that we still have 10k tickets available for this Saturday, sure hope we that number quickly goes down throughout the week.
We as fans need to do our part and pack the Jack for these last 2 home games and give this team the home field advantage they deserve. Saw that we still have 10k tickets available for this Saturday, sure hope we that number quickly goes down throughout the week.
There literally is something very important fans can do. Its called Cyclone club. Its already been linked so pony up and make sure our AD has the resources he needs to retain this staff.
Rhoads had some great wins against teams that weren't really that great (minus OSU) - 8 turnovers to beat a mediocre at best Nebraska team and then beating a 5-7 Texas team - take those overrated wins + winning with Gene Chizik recruits (yes, basically every player worth a crap in those years were Chizik recruits) and you get the reason we overreacted to Rhoads and gave him a terrible contract and thus went downhill FAST after his players were in his program.
CMC has built this program with HIS players, and it is only year 2 - think of all of the young talent we have that are winning us games. He has had better recruiting classes than Rhoads ever had - and look at the depth he is building with players (especially at the line of scrimmage) - CMC knows how to build a program. The culture and attitude he has established in this team is lunlike any other I've seen at ISU (I only started following in late 90's)
We need to do whatever we can to pay Campbell and his staff to stay - if we can lock him in for the long haul, we can finally have a consistent football team and program to look forward to in the falls.
I did see that we have like 10k tickets available for the game this weekend. Pollard tweeted that out and asked the fans to show up for the players and the coaches. That has to be a subliminal message. If we can't fill the stadium this weekend, make bigger donations and show even more support, Pollard can only do so much.
CMC could be our Bill Snyder and we need to ALL to what we can to keep him here for years and years.
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I was not disputing worth or not. I'm just trying to wrap my head around that kind of money. I'm in my mid 30's too and it's going to take me lifetime to make that kind of money. Good for them.
