REPORT: Top 4 expansion candidates

Stormin

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Excited? No, but at least you're not spending your entire weekend traveling to ****ing Storrs.

Doesn't look like many people travelled to either place.
 

jkclone

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Denver area is as far west as I can possibly see us going unless WV leaves and even then.
 

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Nothing quite compares to kickoff at Ku.

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weR138

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Correct me if I'm wrong but the XII hired a firm to study expansion. The results came back that 12 teams, a CCG and 8 conference games is the best option. So now we're studying which teams to add. But what about the 8 conf game part? Will that be possible? Will we have enough TV inventory?

Also, do UT and OU sign an extended GoR? Does reformation (additions, possibly divisions) of the conference give UT and OU cover to bolt?

If a four conf, 64 team CFB league is the end game we don't want to flood the landscape with G5s.
 

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So you are left with choosing the remainder......unless you can poach from the Power Conferences. IMO, those teams are not available. So make your choice of what is available.

Polish up that turd and hope a cocktail of CSU, Cincinnati, UConn and whatever leftover can cure the patient?

Let's enjoy this conference until the GOR ends and have the lifeboats ready. The Titanic....err....I mean Big 12 is sinking
 

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Bowlsby said the goal of expansion would be to keep up with the SEC and Big10. With the candidates available, I just don't see how that's possible. I say, if you can't beat them, join them.

Combine with the SEC (or Big10 if SEC isn't an option), then split the 24 teams into two 12 team groupings that further divided into 6 team divisions. I think a grouping like this would get way more money/team for both sides with the shear size of inventory as well as the name brand schools involved.

The funniest part would be that when they divide into the two 12 team groupings, it would likely send Missouri & Texas A&M (of Nebraska if Big10) back to playing games with the old Big 12 boys.
 

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I know we all have favorites for expansion, and well see. I trust the Big 12 will analyze and add at the right time.

I am just pleased ISU is in the position to remain in the P5 conference now and in the future. The fear I had of ISU be relegated to the MW or former Big East and discussions the dissolving the Big 12 we had 6-7 years ago have faded.
 

Stormin

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Polish up that turd and hope a cocktail of CSU, Cincinnati, UConn and whatever leftover can cure the patient?

Let's enjoy this conference until the GOR ends and have the lifeboats ready. The Titanic....err....I mean Big 12 is sinking

So you would do nothing and let the Big 12 fold?

Pretty idiotic strategy. Big 12 expanded is pretty viable. Very good football and an elite basketball conference. Definitely need the CCG for football. Iowa State will benefit from expansion. Cinci and UConn are the best of what is available.
 

weR138

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Bowlsby said the goal of expansion would be to keep up with the SEC and Big10. With the candidates available, I just don't see how that's possible. I say, if you can't beat them, join them.

Combine with the SEC (or Big10 if SEC isn't an option), then split the 24 teams into two 12 team groupings that further divided into 6 team divisions. I think a grouping like this would get way more money/team for both sides with the shear size of inventory as well as the name brand schools involved.

The funniest part would be that when they divide into the two 12 team groupings, it would likely send Missouri & Texas A&M (of Nebraska if Big10) back to playing games with the old Big 12 boys.

I agree. It's not. The only way to keep up with B1G/SEC money would be to add - FSU,GT,Clemson &the U. That's it. If that's not possible, keeping up with the B1G/SEC isn't possible and OU & won't sit still for that.
 

weR138

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So you would do nothing and let the Big 12 fold?

Pretty idiotic strategy. Big 12 expanded is pretty viable. Very good football and an elite basketball conference. Definitely need the CCG for football. Iowa State will benefit from expansion. Cinci and UConn are the best of what is available.

So OU & UT stick around if we expand?
 

KnappShack

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So you would do nothing and let the Big 12 fold?

Pretty idiotic strategy. Big 12 expanded is pretty viable. Very good football and an elite basketball conference. Definitely need the CCG for football. Iowa State will benefit from expansion. Cinci and UConn are the best of what is available.

If these schools are going to save the Big 12 then it's time to admit the league is dead.

ISU is very marketable and the administration needs to ensure that is the case when the GOR runs out. Thinking a Cincinnati add is going to save the league is foolish. This is business. Be ready for the next round of change and not have our heads in the sand thinking these leftovers are any type of answer to the $$ issue
 

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Just offer Mizzou, Arkansas, Louisville, and Pitt. I dont expect any to accept, but it doesnt hurt to offer. Then turn to the other options.
 

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When looking at some of these schools people are considering to be "lesser" like CSU, Cincy, and UCONN...we're talking 10 years down the road, schools come up, athletic programs come up. Bowlsby would be taking a stab at the future here, not trying to win the present.

Yep, exactly. TCU was one of those "lesser" programs when they joined...
 

Stormin

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If these schools are going to save the Big 12 then it's time to admit the league is dead.

ISU is very marketable and the administration needs to ensure that is the case when the GOR runs out. Thinking a Cincinnati add is going to save the league is foolish. This is business. Be ready for the next round of change and not have our heads in the sand thinking these leftovers are any type of answer to the $$ issue

Marketable to whom? The Mountain West or the All American Conference?

Iowa State has very good fan base support. But today's market is all about television revenue. Maryland and Rutgers were not added to the Big Ten because of their awesome Athletic Departments. It was all about TV sets.

Bottom line is that we need decent TV markets to add to the numbers in the league for the CCG. The Big 12 is all about the market appeal of Oklahoma and Texas. That is it. Sprinkle in some decent programs for them to play and have a CCG. If a team like Baylor or TCU can emerge as champion with a great record and CCG win, then they will go to the CFP. But otherwise this is all about Oklahoma and Texas. They are the Big Boys.

You are not going to poach ACC teams because of the GOR that those teams have given the Conference. Big 12 has a GOR as well. And it is in Iowa State's best interest to expand and then get the GOR extended. Big 10 is not coming for Iowa State. They are looking for the next big state with TV sets to market their Big Ten network.

The longer that Iowa State stays in a Power 5 Conference, the better the chances of survival if change does take place. If we do nothing, then it will be easy for Texas and Oklahoma to leave. At that time we will be hoping for additions to add to a fledgeling conference that won't have the presence of an Oklahoma or Texas to leverage a decent TV contract.

Do you honestly know where Iowa State was going to land when the Big 12 almost folded? Having our head in the sand is a much preferred place to where your head is located.
 

Dandy

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Whichever way the Big 12 decides to go here I'm glad it won't affect ISU too much when it comes to travel. Couple hours each way. Contrary to ISU, could you imagine WV vs BYU? That travel would be awful.
 

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