Completely agree with this. Non-sports people could have a very different view of coaching and athletics in general.
It's a true wildcard
Nikki Moody sues Bill Fennelly over Racial Discrimination...
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Completely agree with this. Non-sports people could have a very different view of coaching and athletics in general.
It's a true wildcard
problem is someone can be a jerk without being a racist and the jury will have specific instructions to that
BTW I just have to say this and it isn't directed at anyone "The Jerk Store called they're running out of you!"
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To be fair to him, I don't believe he says anywhere that Bill is indeed a racist - mainly just that this confirms that Bill shouldn't be coaching at ISU. I think they need to deal with the lawsuit - and definitely not settle if they have a strong case. Dealing with any issues the administration may have with Bill's handling of players should come after the case is resolved. If they can him now for being an *** to players it will be taken as confirmation that he was indeed a racist and they might as well break out the checkbook and be prepared to write lots of zeros. If that is the outcome it is doubtful that this will be the only case, either.
I had an online subscription for a while but decided about six months in I wasn't using it hardly at all. I was lazy, though...took a while to cancel it. So I figure they OWE me articles.
Agree with that also, but this really could be interesting. Once it hits a jury who knows what could happen. A jury has ignored instructions in the past and thought a high profile legal team brings more gravitas to an argument.
They might just want to punish the jerk coach who's obviously an abusive neanderthal. I would probably enjoy the case if it wasn't my school at risk
I'm not defending the writer...but I have to ask the question...what makes his OPINION piece any different from your stance on the matter...other than the fact he put his name and mugshot on it and you have a screen name and avatar?
Some might find a natural segue from his past to the current situation. Might be plausible...but you are right, being an *** does not mean racist. I'm pretty much an *** and would like to believe I've not a racist.
Finally, not sure why everyone is so up in arms over this. He's one dude writing for the DSM Rag. Perspective.
They will also most likely have a lot of player witnesses, including black players, who say that he was tough but wasn't out of line as well as some witnesses who directly refute some of the allegations in the complaint. The fact that they call out an incident to a black athlete which the athlete has already said didn't happen is problematic. The jury starts to doubt whether the defendant is a Neanderthal or the plaintiff is a liar.
It's like politics where you will do and say anything and everything to destroy your opponent or anyone who disagrees with you.
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I am not a fan of Fennelly's style and frankly don't like him much at all anymore but I don't want this happening too him or ISU. This sounds to me more and more like a vindictive move by Moody to ruin Fennelly and punish ISU with a cash payoff as a bonus.
He came out pretty hard on Bubu too and leaked the university files that "showed up on his doorstep". He certainly thinks he is an investigative retired journalist professor aka letter to the editor writer.
I liked this article Tommy Birch published.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...-lawsuit-discrimination-coach-abuse/83253896/
I remember Izzo saying something similar recently when he was asked about transfer and today's college athletics landscape.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...-lawsuit-discrimination-coach-abuse/83253896/
I remember Izzo saying something similar recently when he was asked about transfer and today's college athletics landscape.
I think two things are true, CBF likely needs to tone it down a bit. If he called women's basketball players female dogs etc. It is out of line. Also if he is picking majors for players because it is easier to influence those professors as alleged, he has bigger problems on his hands as does ISU. Second, I think based on the claims it is plausable she percieved racism which was likely just being a hard *** and he skirted the edges of PC on occasion in making his point. Sometimes dumb stuff comes out of people's mouths when they are angry and people that respect the person saying it are going to interpret those things differently than those that don't. I don't think CBF is any more racist than the average person (and yes we are human so we all have some prejudice, what differentiates us is how we act on them). Hence, I doubt he truly discriminated or retaliated against her and that is what this case should be about. That doesn't mean the jury won't find in her favor because he is a percieved bully.
Look at the current majors for Women's Basketball Team members, I will say with high confidence that the bolded is not happening.
That was a pretty good read. Throw in 10 of Sheryl Swopes players at Loyola requesting transfers to the examples cited in the article.
Yes it is odd, I am curious what the real story is here. Did CBF or the advisor just not think she could hack Vet Med? Wouldn't be here 5 years so don't pick a program that will leave you without a degree in 4 and thus hurt their GPR? It was a curious allegation and not sure if it was meant that he just did that with black players or was systematic if the latter it is easily disprovable as you mention and also not really relevant to the case.
Do we know what kind of student she was? I don't remember her being recognized for her academics but I might have missed that.
Doesn't look like she was based on her profile.
http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205177706&DB_OEM_ID=10700
Exactly! Quite a few different areas of study on the roster last season:
Kinesiology and Health
Interdisciplinary Graduate Studies
Marketing
Criminal Justice
Communication Studies
Kinesiology and Health
Criminology
Kinesiology and Health
Hospitality Management
Communications
Child, Adult, and Family Services
Mechanical Engineering
I decided to even go back to the 2010 roster and take a sample of majors and found Graphic Design, Journalism, Speech Communications, Elementary Education, Criminal Justice amongst some of the majors. I guess I would assume that most female players realize the chances of them making a living playing basketball are VERY slim and would want to study something they could turn into a career after college so if Moody truly had aspirations to be a vet then why didn't she put her foot down and tell the staff if you want me to play her you find a way to make it work. We already know that she was hard headed and stubborn so I find it hard to believe she just rolled over and agreed to major in something she didn't have interest in.
Um, I don't think that list really supports your point. There's one Mechanical Engineering outlier but all the rest of those majors look exactly like what you'd expect players to be pushed towards.
Besides, pushing players towards easy majors is something that happens in every sport at every school. I don't think that is at all controversial.
