Great fan base. Great facilities. Great conference. Athletic department that pays top dollar for WBB (compared to many P5 schools). Even if Bill went out on a high note I'd be ****** if they hired his son.
Nikki Moody sues Bill Fennelly over Racial Discrimination...
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Great fan base. Great facilities. Great conference. Athletic department that pays top dollar for WBB (compared to many P5 schools). Even if Bill went out on a high note I'd be ****** if they hired his son.
Not actually sure what you are getting at but if you followed the WBB forums you would know I do not even like Bill Fennelly. I won't mind one iota to see him gone. I also do not like Nikki Moody. She's probably the lone ISU WBB player in 20 years I have actually disliked.
I can't guarantee this is 100% correct (I compiled it quickly), but I believe it is.
2015 WNBA Third round:
12 players drafted (Moody was 8th -- 33rd overall).
Of those 12:
2 played in an actual WNBA game last season
3 didn't play for medical reasons (two sat out with knee/ankle issues and one actually returned to college after being granted a 6th season) -- no guarantee any of them would have made the roster.
7 (including Moody) were cut.
2015 WNBA Third round:
12 players drafted (Moody was 8th -- 33rd overall).
Of those 12:
2 played in an actual WNBA game last season
3 didn't play for medical reasons (two sat out with knee/ankle issues and one actually returned to college after being granted a 6th season) -- no guarantee any of them would have made the roster.
7 (including Moody) were cut.
No. He is presenting a valid point. The link between Fennelly and her not making the cut in the WNBA is far fetched. It is incredibly hard to make a roster in that tiny league. 12 teams x 15 players = only 180 jobs.
Just an observation... We have a serious legal action that should be taken seriously. As is typical, we have posts asserting facts that are not known and silly judgments being made with nothing but hot air to back them up. Lets be careful with character assassination toward anyone, CBF, Moody, or anyone else.
CycloneErik
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I agree on that link. It's pretty far into conspiracy land. Possible, but really remotely possible if even that.
I'm just seeing a really vehement trend every time he reads another sentence or paragraph and offering a heads-up before he ends up digging a really big hole.
But you have certainly decided that BF is in the one in the wrong, you've already said that we don't need coaches like him.
Whether adding that claim to the lawsuit is a good tactic or not remains to be seen. Maybe they have a witness. At the very least, it's just another allegation that Fennelly and ISU have to spend resources on to address.
In this particular instance, she doesn't even allege anything (unless I missed something).
It's not exactly the most well-written lawsuit I've ever seen, but they certainly seem to be implying that Fennelly used his influence to get her cut. If it goes to jury, who knows what effect that will have on jurors.
He's a state employee,so it makes sense to name every possible person or orginization with money
Not really. Fennelly's coaching style is well known and you can dislike that without thinking there is a racial component.
I read through the scathing lawsuit. No way would Bill be dumb enough to do all of that. I would love to hear his side of the story.
Sadly due to all of this I think his coaching days are over. Leath will force him into retirement, he can't keep an alleged "racist" on the university staff (even if Bill has dedicated 20 years of his life to making the university better). This all despite still recruiting African American players and getting and retaining Coach Schaben for 19 of 20 years of his career as a coach here. I personally feel Moody has an entitled personality and took Bill's tough love coaching the wrong way. No way would he of recruited her and offered her a scholarship if he was truly a racist. I think this whole law suit is a farce to give Moody an opportunity to retaliate and make a quick buck while completely destroying Bill's 20 year coaching career. I would love to hear all the former players speak out in favor of Bill.
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With the whole major issue that Nikki felt forced into, this is from Bill's bio:
Fennelly made academics a top priority for his Cyclone squads, and his student-athletes have flourished in the classroom. Every student-athlete who has completed her eligibility under Fennelly has graduated from Iowa State with a degree. Former Cyclone women's basketball players are littered all over the globe with careers as doctors, lawyers, broadcasters, teachers, accountants and coaches. Many also have continued their playing careers professionally overseas and in the WNBA.
During Fennelly's tenure, Iowa State has been represented on the academic all-conference list 91 times. Five Cyclones earned academic All-America honors and an ISU player made the district academic All-America list 13 times during that span.
Also from his bio, he has a lifetime contract:
"Former ISU president Gregory Geoffroy and athletics director Jamie Pollard awarded Fennelly a lifetime contract following the 2006-07 campaign, displaying their ultimate confidence in his ability to lead the Cyclones for the long term."
Sadly due to all of this I think his coaching days are over. Leath will force him into retirement, he can't keep an alleged "racist" on the university staff (even if Bill has dedicated 20 years of his life to making the university better). This all despite still recruiting African American players and getting and retaining Coach Schaben for 19 of 20 years of his career as a coach here. I personally feel Moody has an entitled personality and took Bill's tough love coaching the wrong way. No way would he of recruited her and offered her a scholarship if he was truly a racist. I think this whole law suit is a farce to give Moody an opportunity to retaliate and make a quick buck while completely destroying Bill's 20 year coaching career. I would love to hear all the former players speak out in favor of Bill.
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With the whole major issue that Nikki felt forced into, this is from Bill's bio:
Fennelly made academics a top priority for his Cyclone squads, and his student-athletes have flourished in the classroom. Every student-athlete who has completed her eligibility under Fennelly has graduated from Iowa State with a degree. Former Cyclone women's basketball players are littered all over the globe with careers as doctors, lawyers, broadcasters, teachers, accountants and coaches. Many also have continued their playing careers professionally overseas and in the WNBA.
During Fennelly's tenure, Iowa State has been represented on the academic all-conference list 91 times. Five Cyclones earned academic All-America honors and an ISU player made the district academic All-America list 13 times during that span.
Also from his bio, he has a lifetime contract:
"Former ISU president Gregory Geoffroy and athletics director Jamie Pollard awarded Fennelly a lifetime contract following the 2006-07 campaign, displaying their ultimate confidence in his ability to lead the Cyclones for the long term."
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I haven't been through the entirety of this thread, but has anyone brought up the not too recent allegations that Bill's program is not too hospitable or open minded about homosexual players as well. Beginning to think that Bill may be a little old fashioned/opinionated/bigoted in his belief system.
Where there's smoke.....
Where there's smoke.....
Actually, though subtle, it's more than that. If he deems that they are playing below their potential, he may ride them more. You can't treat everyone the same in terms of toughness because some need it more than others. That said, we'll see how this plays out.
Pit was pretty common knowledge at Drake that Bluder used this as a scare tactic against Fennelly. People there said it wasn't true, but the thought of it being true was enough to send some players to Drake that Fennelly was pursuing. Accusations are exactly that...they aren't truth. They aren't fact. What is fact is they were unfounded at that time.
Nope. Not jumping to conclusions. At all.
Gonna let this play out before I decide to comment on whom is or isn't at fault.
Uhhh where did I say he was guilty of this? I said we don't need ******** as coaches. So if you say he's an *******, then you are right, we don't need coaches like him.
