What is the peak for ISU's football program
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I don't believe that will be the model unless Campbell comes to believe he cannot recruit hs seniors needed to be successful. He is getting some now to fill the gaps his staff presently sees as important needs.
It's more than jucos. The Snyder method also involves playing mistake free football. It means executing at a high level and controlling those things that you can control. He runs his program to make the most of smart, hungry guys who want to show they belong at the P5 level. It means total focus in game, with emotions under control. Basically it is a lot of things that that last staff here struggled with.
Yeah, there have also been a couple of guys named locket that were the best athletes on the field.
I agree with you for the most part. Snyder out works people and I'm guessing his practices teach discipline and effort.
Ps. I do find it interesting that most people don't notice how much ksu runs their quarterback. Snyder knows you can't just line up in an I formation and win in this league.
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Iowa state has beaten Iowa in the years Iowa won the big ten and has won 50% of the games recently. So I am sure Iowa state could play with the jaugernauts of Indiana Purdue Illinois Minnesota Iowa and northwestern. Iowa state Also used to beat Nebraska down the stretch as well. Get off the big ten being good thing. It is Ohio state and everyone else. Facts are since 1970 which is when current college football polls started the big ten has 3 national titles. Only 3 and Michigan shared one. schoembechler never won a title.
McCarney won 7 games or more 5 of his last 7 years at ISU, before being fired in 2006. There was a 9 (NINE) win season in there as well. I'd argue that would be our peak, especially with a tougher conference now with TCU and Baylor. At the time, I think most felt we needed some 10 win seasons because Iowa and Nebraska were doing it.
K-State has never won 12 games in the history of their school.
KU did it once in the lower division not having to play the best team in the conference.
Same with Iowa.
I believe Campbell is already inheriting double digit returning jucos from Rhoads. But hopefully you are correct. That is what most people presumed Fred would do, but he never got off the JucoTransfer (dismissed tranfer) addiction, as evidenced right now by the fact the basketball team does not have one sophomore who can contribute. I don't even know that Prohm was left with a single sophomore on the roster. Fred was bent on winning immediately, at the expense of long term, so he could run off to the pros. Unless he just didn't care much for recruiting and developing more high school kids.
Actually, neither has Iowa. Or did you just completely forget about Northern Illinois and Central Michigan?
Western Michigan in 1999 and 2007, Central Michigan in 2012 and Northern Illinois in 2013 are the only non Power 5 teams that I can remember beating Iowa in the Ferentz era. He has not lost to any FCS schools.
I would hardly call that not being able to consistently beat FCS/MAC teams.
The SEC west is tough because they play each other and most are good teams. The SEC east is not that tough and they don't play everyone in the conference.
The big 12 has to go back to divisions. They receive no outside benefit to playing such a tough schedule.
I have no clue the answer to this but how many FCS losses does ISU have in that same time frame?
McCarney didn't lose to a FCS school, but he did lose to the following mid majors since 1999: '02 Boise St, '03 N. Ill., '05 TCU,
Chizik lost to a FCS UNI team and to Kent St., Toledo, and UNLV in his two years
Rhoads lost to UNI and NDSU, and also Tulsa, Toledo, and Utah
So 3 FCS losses, and 9 Mid Major losses during the timeframe CoolHawkeye was talking about. By my count ISU has gone 12-3 vs FCS schools since 1999. They are 16-9 vs Mid Major schools since 1999.
That record vs Mid Major is disappointing, and one of the reasons the overall records aren't better. We can't keep dropping games to those teams, we shouldn't have lost to Toledo this year.
I can think of 3 in the last few years, UNI twice and NDSU once.
Few years may not be accurate, I remember UNI beat ISU in 2013. I cant remember how recent the other Panther victory was.
Add that to Toledo this year and Tulsa in the bowl game, 2012?, and you have at least 5 losses to non power 5 teams in the last 7-8 years.
I would have no idea the total going back 17 years.
According to one Hawk fan.
I never said that, I just pointed out KF's record against MAC/FCS teams.
Was UCONN Big East in football in 2002? IIRC, they had just transitioned to Division 1 not long before 2002.
