Some people still want us to hire Ferentz's son or Briles's son. I'm all-in with CMC for lots of reasons. Just want to win some football games!
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Some people still want us to hire Ferentz's son or Briles's son. I'm all-in with CMC for lots of reasons. Just want to win some football games!
I have read a few books and for some reason I am thinking about JFK. He was our youngest president - elected based on hope. He gave the attorney general cabinet post to his little brother. He had no clue how things really ran regarding intelligence agencies, foreign policy and global finance . Khrushchev had no respect for him - the Cuban missile crisis, Vietnam, Berlin blockade, Bay of pigs, Vienna summit, all were slaps in the face for US.
I completely agree. And I don't have a problem with Manning getting the job. Like I said, I think it is a great advantage when hiring a head coach is that you end up with a lot of a previous staff that has worked together.
The only slight concern I have in this particular case, is that this staff has worked together which is great, but this staff hasn't exactly worked at a lot of places. Most of these guys have come directly from finishing college to Toledo to Iowa State. I guess in a perfect world, they would have had tiny bit more experience before going to Toledo.
That's why I sort of hope that Sturdy wants to stay and most importantly that Campbell wants to keep him. Having someone who has coached for more than 10 years total would be a good thing.
The new staff will have talent to work with. They certainly weren't left with nothing because we were told by the geniuses on here over and over again that it was coaching mistakes that kept us from winning 8 games.
Wow, that's an odd way to turn this thread political.
HEY! We found that guy from the grassy knoll everyone!
Yeah, MAC coaches moving up in the coaching world to the 'P5' conferences or NFL do not have much of a track record of displaying they have any aptitude at coaching.
*** or whatever his name is trolling hard, but a lot of just flat-out dumb comments made in this thread besides his moronic one. Time will tell but this whole 'he's settling, he's not getting anyone with P5 experience' crap needs to end. Saban moved on from Toledo to become DC at Cleveland. Pinkel stepped in & did pretty well, then moved to Mizzou & brought a lot of his staff with him. That didn't turn out bad for Mizzou. Amstutz & Beckman came after, then Campbell out-did both during his tenure. Let's have a little faith but not think at the same time he is walking on water already.
Also true on the recruiting - last year was the best Rhoads had in a good while & my hope is we can replicate that at a minimum. Should we get the Bruise Brothers (Pine & Sutton) along with Foster, Allen & others, then watch out. We would have the best class in quite some time.
Is David Yost ever a mention anywhere? Not here so much but just anywhere in general? Left Mizzou not under the best of terms & resurfaced at Washington State. Ohio native & background in MAC and Big XII.
*** or whatever his name is trolling hard, but a lot of just flat-out dumb comments made in this thread besides his moronic one. Time will tell but this whole 'he's settling, he's not getting anyone with P5 experience' crap needs to end. Saban moved on from Toledo to become DC at Cleveland. Pinkel stepped in & did pretty well, then moved to Mizzou & brought a lot of his staff with him. That didn't turn out bad for Mizzou. Amstutz & Beckman came after, then Campbell out-did both during his tenure. Let's have a little faith but not think at the same time he is walking on water already.
Also true on the recruiting - last year was the best Rhoads had in a good while & my hope is we can replicate that at a minimum. Should we get the Bruise Brothers (Pine & Sutton) along with Foster, Allen & others, then watch out. We would have the best class in quite some time.
Is David Yost ever a mention anywhere? Not here so much but just anywhere in general? Left Mizzou not under the best of terms & resurfaced at Washington State. Ohio native & background in MAC and Big XII.
This hire is very discerning to me. I'm not saying he can't do the job, but Manning was option 3 at best. Why wasn't this announced immediately? Probably because campbell wanted someone else and couldn't get him
It seems risky to bring over his entire staff that was successful with him at Toledo? How is that risky again? Risky would be hiring all new guys he's never worked with before.
My sentiments exactly. Enough with all of the negative Nancys around here.
The guy hasn't even coached a game here and people are condemning him already. Campbell is bringing more passion and enthusiasm for coaching this team than we have seen in a long while. That and the apparent shift in culture and we should at least give him a chance to coach a few games before shooting him down.
Ummmm how does one get experience without actually doing it?
Fred Hoiberg was hired as a HC with ZERO HC experience. How did that work out?
As Tom Cruise said in the movie RISKY BUSINESS, "Sometimes you just have to say 'What the ****?'"
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I'm curious who people really wanted us to go get?
If we promoted a lower level OC, people would complain that they have no P5 experience.
If we hired a P5 coordinator who was recently part of a staff who was let go, they'd complain that they couldn't win at (insert former school).
There aren't too many top notch candidates that we are going to be able to pull in to ISU who have the qualifications that some people seem to require.
What ever helps you sleep at night....
I think I'll go with this theory as well. Thanks.
Never said there was anything wrong with it... For the record. I'm fine with it. It's MC career, not mine.
