You are so good at chosing what to read, and what not to. Hahaha yeah, bringing up Baylors average pt per win with the 104th hardest schedule is reaaaaally helping your point.
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You are so good at chosing what to read, and what not to. Hahaha yeah, bringing up Baylors average pt per win with the 104th hardest schedule is reaaaaally helping your point.
Ahh, so the undefeated champs of the ****tiest leagues should be in a four team playoff. Makes sense coming from the Big 10 West.
Question for Hawk Fans. I know you think you are deserving..and I can see that argument.
BUT....if you take a non-biased look at the teams in the top 10, who do you think Iowa would have a decent shot of beating?
I would say Iowa would be in the game with LSU / Mich St, Bama, ND, and FL. I honestly think think that Clemson, TCU, Baylor, and OSU blow Iowa out 90% of the time.
Ninja Edit: I should also add I am certain that Iowa would be significant dogs against every other team in the top 10. Closest spreads I think would be against Mich St, FL and ND.
BUT....if you take a non-biased look at the teams in the top 10, who do you think Iowa would have a decent shot of beating?
| 1. Clemson | 6. Baylor |
| 2. LSU | 7. Michigan State |
| 3. Ohio State | 8. TCU |
| 4. Alabama | 9. Iowa |
| 5. Notre Dame | 10. Florida |
I would say Iowa would be in the game with LSU / Mich St, Bama, ND, and FL. I honestly think think that Clemson, TCU, Baylor, and OSU blow Iowa out 90% of the time.
Ninja Edit: I should also add I am certain that Iowa would be significant dogs against every other team in the top 10. Closest spreads I think would be against Mich St, FL and ND.
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What am I missing? You said Baylor and TCU's schedules were both laughably easy when TCU's is comparable to Iowa's. I never said either of them were playing tough schedules to this point.
I'd have to see Baylor play a good team with their new quarterback first. I don't like their odds against the other three you listed (although if Jones continues to play as poorly as he has and Barrett continues to do dumb things to keep him off the field, OSU is beatable)
Oh good lord, you know thats not what I meant. My, and other's points, have is that a four team playoff was supposed to even things for the non blue bloods, but its been the exact opposite. Which is why, i believe, the playoff will expand.
Yes, then I said "lets split the difference". Look, even if Iowa's was laughably easy too, go look at the other margin of victories of teams not named Baylor and TCU. This will, again, prove your "dominating" win point incorrect.
The only way I see an undefeated Iowa out is...
*Clemson wins out
*LSU wins out
*OSU/Baylor/TCU win out
(so these three are definitely in)
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*Notre Dame wins out, convincingly
*OSU, MSU, or Michigan limp into the Big Ten championship game with 1-2 losses
*the committee prefers a 1-loss ND with a strong schedule over an Iowa with a lame one
Ironically, Temple losing to Notre Dame might have kept Iowa out then?
Owls before Hawks?
actually, there is a much better way an undefeated Iowa doesn't get in (and also a way that an undefeated Big 12 doesn't get in)
Let's say Clemson wins out. Then lets say LSU goes undefeated through the regular season but loses a close game to a one loss Florida team in the SEC title game. An undefeated Big 12 champ is in easily over an undefeated Iowa but is probably once again left out over an undefeated Ohio State.
Sorry, how about this. Iowa/Baylor/TCU have laughably easy schedules and TCU and Baylor are dominating the games they are winning more than Iowa is. Is that what you want?
Ha, my whole point was the dominating win thing is blown out of proportion. And dont lump Baylor in there. TCU/Iowa have had "meh" schedules. Baylors is indeed laughable.
1. Wisconsin hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record, so yes
2. Irrelevant
3. I doubt they'll care about Iowa beating the 5th or 6th best Big 12 team should we finish that high up. Congrats for beating a 5-7 or 6-6 team I guess.
4. Pitt also hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record, so yes.
You were the one that said TCU has played a laughable schedule!
"Baylor and TCU have had laughably easy schedules to "dominate" with. I know it will change in the future, but as of today, thats how it is."
Ill admit that I thought TCU had a worse schedule than that (still easier than Iowas). But Baylor still remains.
But getting off that point, it still proves that the dominating win thing, esp. against bad teams (Baylor) is blown out of proportion, which was my original point.
Using their sort of transitive property of football, Memphis beat Ole Miss, who beat Alabama, who beat Wisconsin by a lot more than Iowa did, so I guess they would think Memphis would whoop their arses.
You're putting Iowa's #47 SOS on the same level as Baylor's #104 SOS. You're better than that.
