Does Fred really hate JP? I'm trying to rationalize why he would leave what he has here.
Besides no recruiting, double the pay, better players and a chance to win an NBA championship?
Does Fred really hate JP? I'm trying to rationalize why he would leave what he has here.
I got the ESPN alert on this at 9 PM last night, so it was not " as of this post "
The things that I keep coming back to in my mind:
1. Either Fred, or probably someone on his behalf, said that the losses at Iowa State just kill him because of his emotional investment in this place. This would certainly be easier somewhere else.
2. His health. He probably doesn't take anything for granted after what he's been through, and may feel it's now or never to take a shot.
3. With #2 in mind, if he wants to take that shot soon, now is the best time in the foreseeable future, as the team is stacked with senior talent.
Yep. If I was in his position, my logic would be, yes I want to go to the NBA sooner rather than later, and if I don't go this year and leaving after next year will deplete the program, then I either go now or wait 3-4 years for roster to balance out.
You have to remember that Fred lived thru a similar situation with Orr leaving early instead of finishing out coaching Fred and the other seniors that year.
Hoiberg, Meyer, Michalik, and Beechum were all going into their senior season when Orr decided to step away and leave a solid team for the new coach. Now today it's Niang, Naz, McKay and Monte that will be left for a new coach.
As of this post, just saw it on a crawl across the screen on ESPN "Bulls confident that Fred will except their offer"
Same here.
I personally will not be watching a press conference announcing Fred Hoiberg as the Bulls coach. I have no interest in non-ISU Fred.
Just watched the video of it on ESPN. Made me want to puke , especially when I listened to Gar Forman say in their press conference of the Thibs firing how they weren't going to rush it and they hadn't even made a list yet. And whether it took 1 day, 2 wks, or 2 months they'd find the right fit. Now that certainly was a bunch of "Bull", wasn't it. Like we didn't know they already had their man. You think they could have spared their own fan base with that wasted message.... a list...hahaha. On a more serious note, I'm glad this won't drag out and the day I watch his press conference I'm going to be very very sad. But I appreciate everything Fred brought to Cyclone basketball.
Plus, a link saying that they were confident was posted about 10 times on CF yesterday.
yep.Yeah, not much here either...I mean, no malice or anything, but I don't follow the NBA, so like when he was playing, someone says something about what he was doing, my response would be along the lines of "hmm...that's cool" and right back to whatever I was doing before.
100% concur. I have no interest in the Bulls and their poopy pants (did I do that right Hoops?)
I personally will not be watching a press conference announcing Fred Hoiberg as the Bulls coach. I have no interest in non-ISU Fred.
I still think Orr was pushed, but I agree with your points.
It most likely has nothing to do with JP or ISU. It has everything to do with Hoiberg wanting to be an NBA head coach. He's talked about that publicly, he structured his contract at ISU to make it clear to NBA teams he was not going to be costly to get, he has a rolodex full of NBA execs and coaches who have been telling him for years he is cut out for that job.
If he leaves ISU, I will feel bad for what might have been. But I am not going to try and lay blame for it anywhere other than where it belongs. If Hoiberg leaves, it will be because it is what he wants.
I'm a Bucks fan, so I concur!I always hope the Bulls are horrible no matter who their coach is.