Cincinnati and Memphis to the Big 12?

[Al_4_State]

I doubt either Memphis or Cincy bring anything to the Big 12 other than less money and less Texas exposure for the current schools.

 

[TensasCy]

ACC/Big 12 Divisions for football

Northwest
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Louisville
Pitt
West Virginia

Southwest
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas
Texas Tech

Northeast
Boston College
Duke
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

Southeast
Clemson
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Miami
North Carolina
North Carolina State

So we'd play our division every year plus 1 from each of the others. We'd play every team in our division in Ames every other year, and every team in the conference once every six years (and bring them to Ames once every 12).

For basketball, add in Notre Dame and make it a 24-game conference slate. 12 conference games at home and 12 away; switch who you get where every season.

Conference play would start in mid-December in order to fit it in, so our traditional date with Iowa would mark the end of non-conference play. It would be a bloodbath.

Five-day conference tournament in March (alternatively, only the top 16 qualify for the conference tournament, and do a 4-day tournament); the FedEx Forum in Memphis would be a central spot for that probably, or could rotate sites (Kansas City, Dallas, Charlotte, DC)?

Why not just add in the SEC while you're at it. That would add stability.

 

[clone52]

TCU is the #3 choice right now and plays Iowa State. Unless they get upset or play a horrible game at home versus the Cyclones they are a virtual lock to make the playoffs. Florida State is on the edge at #4 and their unbeaten record is the only thing keeping them in the mix. They could get upset.

As far as Ohio State, they are rated #5. But the Chairman of the Selection committee said that position did NOT reflect the loss of JT Barrett. The next vote WILL reflect that loss of JT Barrett. Wisconsin could win and knock them out. Baylor will have their hands full with K-State IMO. IF OSU and FSU lose then Baylor is likely in the Final Four. Hard to justify taking any of the 2 loss teams over the Bears........especially when there is argument over whether it is TCU or Baylor. They simply take both.

Honestly, I think if all 3 teams win, Baylor jumps Ohio State in the rankings. I don't know if they would jump FSU though.

Comparing Baylor and OSU's resume's and Baylor clearly comes out on top. Better wins and a better loss.

 

[dunar]

Baptists are Christians

I think there's plenty of argument if Mormons are as well. I haven't checked the Cave for CF's opinion, however...

 

[kingcy]

Copying an earlier post of mine below.

Why do people think this?

The Big 12 is the only conference that has a reasonable shot at getting two teams in the playoff. That is only possible because they don't have a championship game.

Consider the following two scenarios:

1) Baylor and TCU are in the same division. Baylor would be playing K-State in the B12 Championship Game this Saturday, while TCU would be staying home. TCU would absolutely get left out at 11-1 behind a 12-1 Baylor who is Big 12 Champion, assuming Baylor beats a good K-State team twice. There's a chance K-State wins one of those and knocks them out, too.

2) Baylor and TCU are in different divisions. For obvious reasons, one of them would get left out by virtue of losing on the last weekend in the Championship Game to the other.

The only way that the Big 12 gets two in this year would precisely be because of the lack of a championship game. It's not hurting the conference at all. It might even be helping.

Let's look at the other conferences:

SEC - likely unaffected by championship game (Alabama in either way, Mizzou out either way)
Pac-12 - mixed results, but more bad than good (Oregon in with win and out with loss; Arizona maybe in with win and out with loss.)
ACC - all bad (FSU in with win and out with loss, GaTech out either way)
B1G - better than not (OSU maybe in with win)

So the existence of a championship game this season is certainly harmful for one conference (ACC) and potentially harmful for another (Pac-12), while being only potentially helpful for one (B1G).​

This year it will work out well for the Big 12. Who knows in the future. The Big 12 is suppose to have one true champ., but that is not going to be the case this year, because of the play off.

 

[Acylum]

If the Memphis FB program thinks they can waltz into the B12 and take away our rightful spot in the cellar, they've got another guess coming. :realmad:

 

[kingcy]

For ISU adding Cincy and Memphis would be better than adding BYU.

 

[Rogue52]

If FSU loses on Saturday and is left out of the College Football Playoff (which would happen if they lose), welcome to the Big 12 FSU.

 

[scyclonekid]

Sounds good, cough cough.

 

[benjay]

If the Memphis FB program thinks they can waltz into the B12 and take away our rightful spot in the cellar, they've got another guess coming. :realmad:

One thing I've learned about ISU football - we can always get worse.

 

[A-town Cy]

Big 12 won't need 2 teams if the other conferences want them to have a championship. The power 5 conferences have the authority to vote and allow the Big 12 to have a championship game with 10 schools. Big 12 is going to keep splitting checks 10 ways.

 

[brianhos]

Are you serious?

A 1 loss Big 12 team that will likely not be the clear champion of the league is ahead of an undefeated team from another power conference.

The only way the Big 12 gets passed over is if we beat TCU and KSU beats Baylor, and all the other 1 loss teams win.

Unless Wisconsin beats Ohio St (which may happen). Yeah I am very concerned that the big 12 gets skipped because it is not the traditional power names representing the big12.

 

[Goothrey]

Well, it looks like the Big 12 is getting a team in the playoff without a championship game. And if the playoff expands past just 4 teams, it's hard to believe the big 12 wouldn't get an auto-bid

 

[SighClone23]

This is the most insane/ridiculous thread I've ever read on this site. And that's saying something.

 

[Ficklone02]

The problem I have with BYU is if they dictate Monday through Saturday play only. They nearly bollixed the whole NCAA bracket a few years back. While I respect their adherence to the Sabbath, I don't respect the idea that they could impose it on the rest of the members of a conference with which they have a strictly secular association.

If they backed off that demand, wouldn't mind adding them.

I'll give you points just for your use of the word bollixed.

 

[SighClone23]

Unless Wisconsin beats Ohio St (which may happen). Yeah I am very concerned that the big 12 gets skipped because it is not the traditional power names representing the big12.

Ohio State is not jumping TCU. It's not happening, especially with them being down to their third-string quarterback. That injury plays into the committee's decision making. The only way the Big 12 gets left out is if we beat TCU tomorrow. Even then, Baylor would have a good shot if they beat K-State.

 

[Go2Guy]

http://www.espn929.com/pages/20457311.php

According to a radio host in Nashville, the Big 12 is going to add two teams in the offseason: Cincinnati and Memphis. .

Gawd no; anybody but those schools. If I had my preference it would love to see Arkansas and Mizzou; heck, I'd even take Nebby back.

 

[Al_4_State]

Unless Wisconsin beats Ohio St (which may happen). Yeah I am very concerned that the big 12 gets skipped because it is not the traditional power names representing the big12.

If they were going to bounce TCU out when a team 2 spots below them wins, why would they put TCU at #3?

 

[mj4cy]

Wish it was Louisville and Cincy, but I for one like this. Both good metro sizes.



For fun:

North: ISU/KSU/KU/Cincy/Memphis/WVU

South: OU/OSU/Texas/Baylor/Texas Tech/TCU

or

West (not geographically perfect though): Tech/Baylor/TCU/OSU/KSU/ISU

East (Texas/OU/Cincy/Memphis/WVU/KU)

 

[BEWGER85]

I like the thought of adding an up and coming Memphis football team and the Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium to the BIG 12. I also like the thought of adding a sound Cincinnati team and historical Nippert Stadium. Not to mention what they would be adding to the conference in the means of basketball. This would benefit WVU and their fan base by adding closer teams. Helps their travel budget and fans could easily drive to these venues.