We win with Niang

ironsam

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Did you just link a thread to itself? Now people will spend all night in a never-ending loop.
No, it is a link to my post in this thread. Was hoping you'd read it as it helps explain why thinking about "what ifs" isn't always a bad thing.
 

klamath632

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I don't think there is any doubt.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. These individuals have made a choice to work, a choice to sacrifice, to put themselves on the line night after night for months, to represent you. That kind of commitment and effort deserves and demands your respect. This is your team.
 

BBHMagic

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Thats fine.

ISU wins the Liberty Bowl in 2012 if Jake Knott plays. It was definitely Jake Knott's absence. Nothing else.

You seem to be acting as if having better players (in this case probably THE most important player) has no impact on the game. Sure there were other things that we could have done to deal with the horrible hand we had been dealt yet again. Those other things you brought up are normal every game issues that can arise. However, you don't expect to suddenly lose your most crucial player at the most crucial time of the season. The fact was we had a good chance to get to the final 4. When Georges got hurt we still had a chance, but incredibly greatly diminished chance.
 

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You seem to be acting as if having better players (in this case probably THE most important player) has no impact on the game. Sure there were other things that we could have done to deal with the horrible hand we had been dealt yet again. Those other things you brought up are normal every game issues that can arise. However, you don't expect to suddenly lose your most crucial player at the most crucial time of the season. The fact was we had a good chance to get to the final 4. When Georges got hurt we still had a chance, but incredibly greatly diminished chance.

Well said. I had you guys in Final Four with a legit chance to win it all, based on 3 solid scoring threats and experience from last year's tourney. Losing the heart and soul at that time is virtually impossible to overcome in such a format.
 
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You seem to be acting as if having better players (in this case probably THE most important player) has no impact on the game. Sure there were other things that we could have done to deal with the horrible hand we had been dealt yet again. Those other things you brought up are normal every game issues that can arise. However, you don't expect to suddenly lose your most crucial player at the most crucial time of the season. The fact was we had a good chance to get to the final 4. When Georges got hurt we still had a chance, but incredibly greatly diminished chance.

Negative. I know having Niang in there completely changes this game, but what if Niang does play, plays like Ejim did, and goes 4 for 14 and only scores 12 points (2 three, 2 twos, 2 FT) while taking away attempts from Hogue and Hogue only goes 8 for 10 and scores 20 points? So instead of Hogue having 34 on 19 attempts, Hogue has 20 on 10 attempts and Niang has 12 on 14 attempts. Thats 2 less points with 5 more attempts.

My point is, you cant sit here and say that if Niang plays, ISU wins. Everything changes. UConn played so good tonight, and I'm not sure Niang would of made that any different.
 

BBHMagic

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Negative. I know having Niang in there completely changes this game, but what if Niang does play, plays like Ejim did, and goes 4 for 14 and only scores 12 points (2 three, 2 twos, 2 FT) while taking away attempts from Hogue and Hogue only goes 8 for 10 and scores 20 points? So instead of Hogue having 34 on 19 attempts, Hogue has 20 on 10 attempts and Niang has 12 on 14 attempts. Thats 2 less points with 5 more attempts.

My point is, you cant sit here and say that if Niang plays, ISU wins. Everything changes. UConn played so good tonight, and I'm not sure Niang would of made that any different.

Okay, I agree speaking in absolutes is a mistake, and I personally am not doing that. I'm talking about probability. Any way you cut it, having your most important player playing greatly increases your chances of winning. Also if Georges is in there, we wouldn't have been completely reliant on Hogue because Georges greatest asset is his ability to enhance everyone else's play, whether it be directly through his many assists, or indirectly from the style of play that him simply being in the game allows.
 

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Niang makes our offense so much more dynamic, without a doubt we would have had a much much better chance at this game. But there is no need to speculate over what if's now. It was a great season, just enjoy it.
 

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Pretty sure Niang played in that road game at West Virginia where they put on 100. Therefore, if Niang played, UConn would score 100!
 

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64 teams enter the tournament(not 68) and only one leaves smiling. That's the best thing about the dance besides the cheerleaders. I missed having Georges in there mostly because its so fun to watch him and his goofy "old man's game" take everybody's lunch money.
In the world of above the rim and jump outta the gym, he's my favorite guy to watch.
True BB fans everywhere agree.
 

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I think some people are forgetting that nearly EVERY game we played WITH Niang was a dog fight and came down to the end, even against Texas Friken Tech.... So what makes you think having him would make us suddenly a team destined to blow everyone out on the way to a national championship? These untimely injuries can have the effect of brainwashing ourselves to believe our season and our chances were better than is actually the case
 

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I think some people are forgetting that nearly EVERY game we played WITH Niang was a dog fight and came down to the end, even against Texas Friken Tech.... So what makes you think having him would make us suddenly a team destined to blow everyone out on the way to a national championship? These untimely injuries can have the effect of brainwashing ourselves to believe our season and our chances were better than is actually the case


Just cause you're sober, you don't have to rub it in our face....
 

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