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Angie

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You're just comparing different styles then, Tarantino's style has always been over the top, I don't think you could say his movies would have definitely been better had he used a more muted tone in terms of violence. I'd say in terms of money made, critical success and awards nominated his movies have been far from ruined, and I'm not even really a Tarantino fan, I saw Basterds and really enjoyed it, and have seen RD once, I'd really like to see Django too.

That's cool, I just disagree. I think he tears down what he so carefully built up just for shock value.
 

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That's cool, I just disagree. I think he tears down what he so carefully built up just for shock value.
I get that, it's all about opinion, but based on basically any logical measure of a movie most people would say you're wrong.
 

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I thought Django was turrible, just turrible. Although the Blazing Saddles style bit about the masks was hysterical, other than that no thank you.

Avatar and Titanic also.

Agree with most of the others on this list, but I just can't get behind the lack of love for Star Wars. I am totally biased though, that was the first movie I ever saw in the theatre, and my dad and I went to the original trilogy marathon in my town. It absolutely changed my life. Sure they aren't great movies, and you can shoot all kinds of holes in them, they changed movies forever.

One that wasn't mentioned yet, Punch Drunk Love. That is my least favorite movie ever, and remains the only movie I ever walked out of. I knew going in it wasn't a "typical" Adam Sandler movie, but it was just awful.
 

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That's cool, I just disagree. I think he tears down what he so carefully built up just for shock value.

Would be interesting to see what people think is Tarantino's most violent film. One could argue the ear cutting off scene in RD is the most violent thing he's ever put on screen. The accidental blowing off of a kids head in the car in PF which in turn shows brains in Sam Jackson's hair. Killing for sport in Death Proof. Do you base violence on how much blood is spilled? How many deaths there are? Or more the act going on itself? If someone asked me the most violent scenes in any Tarantino written movie, my top two would be the ear in RD and the hotel scene in True Romance. Which might be odd to some because Kill Bill, IB, and DU all have bloodbaths.
 

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I get that, it's all about opinion, but based on basically any logical measure of a movie most people would say you're wrong.

There are countless instances in the entertainment industry of something continuing to be successful by traditional measures far after it has been innovative or "good." Look at most long-running TV shows. Or don't, whatevs, I'm okay with my opinion.
 

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Would be interesting to see what people think is Tarantino's most violent film. One could argue the ear cutting off scene in RD is the most violent thing he's ever put on screen. The accidental blowing off of a kids head in the car in PF which in turn shows brains in Sam Jackson's hair. Killing for sport in Death Proof. Do you base violence on how much blood is spilled? How many deaths there are? Or more the act going on itself? If someone asked me the most violent scenes in any Tarantino written movie, my top two would be the ear in RD and the hotel scene in True Romance. Which might be odd to some because Kill Bill, IB, and DU all have bloodbaths.

That's a tough call. Yeah, the ear is truly disturbing and violent, as is the hotel scene, but the amount of screentime those take up is so much smaller than in KB, IB, and DU. I really don't have a problem with violence, even with gratuitous violence, it just is when it is ridiculous amounts for long times - it just feels like he's using gore as filler, which he doesn't need because he does have such skill as a director of dialogue and "regular" action.
 

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The posse scene in Django is one of the funnier scenes I've seen in a long time, and it's done in a satirical way. It's genius, and so clever. Quentin doesn't need to kill 700 people in the course of 5 minutes in fantastical sprays of blood, he's got skills so far beyond that.
 

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The posse scene in Django is one of the funnier scenes I've seen in a long time, and it's done in a satirical way. It's genius, and so clever. Quentin doesn't need to kill 700 people in the course of 5 minutes in fantastical sprays of blood, he's got skills so far beyond that.
Why would you say he "needs" to tone down the violence?
 

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How about 80's smash hit movies?

Flashdance..... stupid and ridiculous
Footloose........ see above
St Elmo's Fire ..... saw it for the first time a few years ago.....senseless movie
Pretty Woman....... last time Julia Roberts looked hot. She was terrible trying to sell her 'hooker' character

Harry Potter movie(s)........never seen one..never will
Lord of the Rings(s)........ see above

Any Vampire or Zombie movie? These creatures don't exist. I know this is hard for some of you to reconcile
 
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An argument could be made that today's movies in general are a little tainted by too much unwarranted violence, not just Tarrantino's, but I would agree with Angie, that because of it, overall, his movies aren't as good as they could be. I also think QT's arrogance of "superiority" bleeds through at times, and it also reduces the impact.

I think he is more creative than the Coens, but because of these two factors, his films are as good as some of theirs, though I actually think some of their lesser known works are better than their more known ones (the Big L for example).
 

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Any Vampire or Zombie movie? These creatures don't exist. I know this is hard for some of you to reconcile

If a movie is automatically overrated because it contains things that don't exist, then all fictional movies belong on your list.
 

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Why would you say he "needs" to tone down the violence?

Well, I didn't say it in what you quoted, and he doesn't "need" to if he's okay with his movies being made cartoony and somewhat silly. If I were him, and I had such genius, I probably wouldn't want to paint a pointillistic masterpiece and then go all toddler-channeling-Jackson Pollock over the top.
 

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This thread is funny to me. Before I even opened the first page I was thinking.... "By far the most overrated film ever is Pulp Fiction". So many people tried to tell me that it was such a great movie, but all I saw was gratutious violence. Have seen it multiple times and I still don't get the appeal. I feel that way about most Tarrentino films. The good news for me is that I won't need to debate my stance because you guys have already covered all of the angles. Carry on.
 
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An argument could be made that today's movies in general are a little tainted by too much unwarranted violence, not just Tarrantino's, but I would agree with Angie, that because of it, overall, his movies aren't as good as they could be. I also think QT's arrogance of "superiority" bleeds through at times, and it also reduces the impact.

I think he is more creative than the Coens, but because of these two factors, his films are as good as some of theirs, though I actually think some of their lesser known works are better than their more known ones (the Big L for example).

You said it better than I have. :)
 

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You're just trying to put Baby in a corner.

I finally saw this part of the movie a few weeks ago and had to laugh out loud at that line. I've heard people reference it and it actually sounds like kind of a cool line. I expected it to be from a scene where someone was either attacking her either physically or verbally and Swayze comes in and saves the day. I've avoided watching more than 1-2 minutes of Dirty Dancing at once for these last 26 years. I don't think my girlfriend appreciated it when I burst out laughing during that scene...

I mean, he just bursts into a boring stage show and yells out the line for no reason while "Baby" is sitting calmly with her family and not really in a corner physically or metaphorically. (Rant Over).
 

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This thread is funny to me. Before I even opened the first page I was thinking.... "By far the most overrated film ever is Pulp Fiction". So many people tried to tell me that it was such a great movie, but all I saw was gratutious voilence. Have seen it multple time and I still don't get the appeal. I feel that way about most Tarrentino films. The good news for me is that I won't need to debate my stance because you guys have already covered all of the angles. Carry on.

If all you saw in Pulp Fiction was gratuitous violence, you missed 95% + of the movie. Most of the movie is dialogue scenes. There really isn't that much violence in the movie, there is probably more screen time spent on dancing scenes.
 

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I finally saw this part of the movie a few weeks ago and had to laugh out loud at that line. I've heard people reference it and it actually sounds like kind of a cool line. I expected it to be from a scene where someone was either attacking her either physically or verbally and Swayze comes in and saves the day. I've avoided watching more than 1-2 minutes of Dirty Dancing at once for these last 26 years. I don't think my girlfriend appreciated it when I burst out laughing during that scene...

I mean, he just bursts into a boring stage show and yells out the line for no reason while "Baby" is sitting calmly with her family and not really in a corner physically or metaphorically. (Rant Over).

Yeah, nobody was even saying anything in that particular scene.
 

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Bridesmaids is the chick movie version of this. I laughed, it was funny, but it got old pretty quick.

My daughter made my wife and I watch it because, "It was even funnier than Hangover". It was just a chick flick with a little crude in it. Barely laughed.
 

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If all you saw in Pulp Fiction was gratuitous violence, you missed 95% + of the movie. Most of the movie is dialogue scenes. There really isn't that much violence in the movie, there is probably more screen time spent on dancing scenes.

You're right, but it was violent dialogue. :)