The Big East is in big trouble. Look for the basketball only schools to split off.
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*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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If the Big East folds as a football league maybe the Big 12 can get out of paying exit fees for WV. It would also likely clear the path for Louisville to join.
Hey, this makes the ACC will potentially be the new dirty grave robber guys......then we can abscond witrh Florida State and Clemson and tell them tit for tat. This is all sounding very good for B12 and potential FH recruiting for eastern players. The ND money talks will also be interesting.
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They almost have to at this point, right? It would be nice if it led to some sort of agreement between Big East football and the C-USA/MWC conglomerate. There are no more AQ conferences, let's just find these schools good homes that make sense and call it a day.
Here's a nice little article concerning the new Big 12 TV contract.
Big 12 TV Contract: ESPN, FOX $2.6 Billion Package and Impact on Expansion
Big 12 TV Contract: ESPN, FOX $2.6 Billion Package and Impact on Expansion
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ESPN announces deal with ACC, thru 2027 for $3.6 bil. Is Big 12 announcement on deck?
That's $17 million per team with the additions of 'Cuse and Pitt.
ESPN announces deal with ACC, thru 2027 for $3.6 bil. Is Big 12 announcement on deck?
That's $17 million per team with the additions of 'Cuse and Pitt.
I guess it depends if our contract will have boosts in pay for them coming but those numbers ($17MM/team) really drop the chances.
Isn't that less than the Big 12's deal?
I would guess this can't be anything but a positive for the Big 12 if people want FSU/Clemson. Of course the much bigger positive is that there are 4 spots in the playoff, computer SOS is going to likely be figured in somehow, more than one team per conference is possible, and the ACC is #5 in computer strength almost every year if they're not #6.
Seems like the Big 4 are forming whether people want it or not and the ACC is no longer one of the four like they dreamed.
So they'd make less in the ACC, right?
Not sure how that hurts their chances. Especially when a school like FSU could make a ton off of Tier III.
We make 2 million of Tier III. FSU could blow that away.
Not sure how that hurts their chances. Especially when a school like FSU could make a ton off of Tier III.
We make 2 million of Tier III. FSU could blow that away.
You are way too hung up on the computer BS in the new playoff format. If an ACC team is undefeated, they will be in the 4-team playoff. If there is a one-loss ACC team, it is at least 50-50 they are in the playoff.
We will have to see if the ACC deal includes a grant of rights by the existing schools and if FSU and Clemson sign on. If they sign on, their move to the B12 is dead.
I can see the concern. I mean, you would have thought that I 1-loss conference champ would be a shoo-in for the title game with only one undefeated team in the country, but that didn't turn out to be the case.
The ACC is effectively irrelevant in the new 4 team playoff world of college football unless they dramatically improve their results on the field, see proof below.
Here's the closest the highest ranked ACC team has gotten to making the 4 team playoff in the past decade:
2011: #11...7 teams to jump
2010: #13...9 teams to jump
2009: #5...not a conference champion
2008: #19...15 teams to jump
2007: #3...GOT IN! but lost big to a #8 Big 12 team
2006: #14...10 teams to jump
2005: #22...18 teams to jump
2004: #8...4 teams to jump
2003: #7...3 teams to jump
2002: #14...10 teams to jump (Miami here is the only recent addition who would have been top)
So the ACC gets in the playoff just 10% of the time and likely would have got killed in the one game they made since they got blown out by a #8 team in their bowl. Mathematically they miss the playoff by an average of 7.7 places. That's why teams that want a big time football program would consider leaving the 14 team ACC to become the 11th to 14th members of the Big 12, a conference whose champion makes this top 4 nearly every season and is very close when they don't.
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See my post above this one. They are not going to abandon the BCS ranking system and even if they do the ACC sucks in human polls as well.
You are MAJORLY wrong on an ACC team often making the top four. They miss the top 4 by an average of 7.7 spots over the past decade and have exactly ONE top 4 appearance.
I have no idea if FSU/Clemson will jump. I am quite certain the ACC is going to be left out of 4 team playoff system quite often because I can observe obvious reality.
There will be 4 teams, not 2, in the new format. Big difference. Another factor will be whether or not conference runner-ups like Bama this past season are excluded from the 4 team playoff. I like Delaney's proposal that if 4 conference champs are ranked in the Top 6 of whatever ranking they use, the top 4 ranked champs will automatically qualify.
Yes, the ACC's best team finishes in that top 4 10% of the time and misses it by an average of almost 8 spots per year.
4 is an inconvenient number for the conference that is clearly fifth best. Conference champs only would help them slightly, but if you follow it closely that is a long shot, it seems as if it will still be top 4 as determined by something like the current BCS standings.
You forgot to note undefeated or one-loss ACC teams have been extremely rare the past several years. If it happens, chances are very good that team will qualify in the new format.
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