If you are expecting some sort of logical answers to these questions, remember you are dealing with the NCAA...(see: Lucca decision for further evidence)
Big 12 should drop championship game
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If you are expecting some sort of logical answers to these questions, remember you are dealing with the NCAA...(see: Lucca decision for further evidence)
By that logic, KU should not get to the BCS because they are just sitting back, never having played OU and waiting. Obviously the Big Ten sucked this year, but the system is the system. There can not be three teams from any conference. The Big 12 does not have to play a title game, they just choose to take multiple millions of $'s to do so.
In response to another post about no national championship game participant being in that game without playing in a title game, how about the Pac 10? They play every team during the regular season. Why should they have to play a title game just so the conference can get a big check?
This is the system we have. In my opinion, the thing that makes college football the best sport in the world is the debate, the regular season, the semi-finals that took place today, etc. This was intense, exciting football.
I do not believe that is true. I believe there was one dissenter against the championship game and it was Nubbraska. Makes sense if you think about it. They were the king of the hill when the Big 12 was formed.
I just think the system should be tweaked so that if you don't win your conference in a conference championship game, whether or not your conference has one, you cannot play in the BCS Championship game. A psuedo playoff if you will. That will just accelerate the Big Televen's evolution to Ivy League status.
That's because the Pac-10 has gone to a full round-robin conference schedule (9 games) since the 12th game was added. Everybody plays everybody to determine a conference champion.
How would it be any different than the way it is now? Unless you mean a champ game is required before being in the NC game, but then the Pac 10 has a legitimate reason for getting around that.
Any conference that does not play a championship game is not eligible to play for a national championship.
Conference championship games are a good thing. Conferences that celebrate three and four way ties for first place are not. I really don't know why the Big Televen even plays one conference game. Just play the MAC all year and then everyone wins by tying for first with a 0-0 conference record.
Take that even one step further. There should be a mandatory rule stating "You can't play in the National Title game unless you win your conference." Period. Georgia, in the title game? Heck, they didn'y even make their conference championship, let alone make it to the title game. OSU? Well, at least they are the conference champ. There should also be another rule, if your conference does not have a title game, and there is a tie, there should be a +1 game. For example, if 2 teams go undefeated in the B10, and they do not play each other during the regular season, they must play an extra game at the end of the season to determine who the champ is.
I looked at Georgia's schedule. They lost to Tennessee, who just got beat by LSU. They also lost to S. Carolina, who just lost 5 straight games to end the season. Does anyone really believe Georgia should be in the title game over LSU? Seriously, Georgia in the title game makes me mad, what a joke. YOU SHOULD HAVE TO WIN YOUR CONFERENCE TO PLAY FOR A FREAKIN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!
As I noted earlier, the Big 10 can't play a conference title until they add a 12 team, per NCAA rules.
Do they have a rule preventing all Big Televen teams from playing one another each season?
If I were a voter I would penalize OSU. OSU's resume isn't much better than KU's.
So any Pac 10 team should be barred from the NC because they don't have a champ game even though they play everyone in their conference?
Yeah, I saw it.
Perplexed why this upsets you so, to the extent of taking swipes at others tonight (as I mentioned in another thread).
It's a mess, we could see it coming. The system is what it is - flawed.
But it's not OSU's fault they're going to back in. Blame it on the system and mostly all the teams that choked ahead of them.
Perplexed why this upsets you so, to the extent of taking swipes at others tonight (as I mentioned in another thread).
It's a mess, we could see it coming. The system is what it is - flawed.
But it's not OSU's fault they're going to back in. Blame it on the system and mostly all the teams that choked ahead of them.
Tough call. If I had to decide, yes. It's the closest thing we will ever get to a playoff. Everyone have championship games and then take the top four for a two and one. Realistically, I would be O.K. with at least everyone playing each other in their conference. Jeesh. I thought this was the internet and we could dare to dream.
Are you talking about a playoff system where every winner of a conference title game gets in and that's it?
I could be on board with this.
Then again, you could have a team that goes undefeated all season, loses a close one in the conference title game to another very good team and get completely left out of the playoff system.
I could be on board with this.
Then again, you could have a team that goes undefeated all season, loses a close one in the conference title game to another very good team and get completely left out of the playoff system.
What is it with you and "snipes" tonight? When someone gives me a little crap I just assume they are having fun and joking. I guess you assume the opposite. Trust me, every post I make is with a smile. We are all Clones bra. I hate the Big Televen and that includes OSU. i agree it's the system and it gives them a free pass. OU would roll OSU. OSU could not win a Big 12 Division.
Enginerd, basically, this entire argument boils down to the way the Big Televen does things vs. everyone else. Pac 10 is fine since everyone plays everyone, the BT isn't because they don't. However, even with the BT champ game, would anyone be happy with tOSU in the title game?
