Invite two more teams now so that we just play 8 conference games next year then go to a twelve team schedule the next. I could live with that.
WVU vs The Big East....getting ugly
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At this point I have no qualms with sinking the Big East. Invite Louisville +1 and call it a day.
Wish the big 12 were as tough on schools leaving as the big east. Why negotiate down an exit fee? Threat it up!
Well, the Big 12 knows it can invite quality members to replace those who have left.
The Big East is inviting C-USA also rans.
I concur with this idea, but not an FCS. Who is independent that could join at the driop of a hat? Options are limited. Perhaps an FCS league would part with one of their teams "if" the Big 12 offered a substantial payout to their conference and all its members.
Tulane is the only logical choice there. S Florida would put the BE in the same predicament and BYU is a non starter for reasons already discussed.
I really don't understand why the big East thinks it's o.k. for them to take teams from other conferances but when someone takes one of their teams they freak out. Just charge them a 5 million dollar exit fee and be on with your lives.
Oh and Tulane will never be in the big 12. They are like 15th down the list. No idea why you keep trying to tell us about Tulane. They are the Northern Iowa of Louisiana. They are 3rd fiddle
It's because the other teams are not leaving for 2012. There would be no problem with WVU leaving if they did it after 2012. The BE is screwed with less than 8 teams if WVU gets out and also for scheduling. Wouldn't be a big deal otherwise if they had someone to fill in for them in 2012.
LOL...open your mind. Not saying they make the cut but they are more like 3rd or 4th on the list after Louisville and if ND, FSU, or Rutgers do not work out then prepare to live with Tulane in the B12.
They would get in before Cincy or S Florida.
Worst Case Scenario: Would it be possible to "rent" an independent for the year? Have the conference assist a BYU or Army/Navy in buying-out the necessary number of already scheduled games in order to maintain the tv package for 2012.
They should not and would not.
The big 12 would be better with either of those. Hell, itd be better off stealing Houston from the big east (and much like TCU, since they havent officially started there, they could leave instantly) and hoping they could build a larger fanbase in the Houston area once they're elevated to a premier league.
UCF would also be a solid option.
I completely and utterly disagree. I care about more than FB though. Everything I have read leads me to believe Tulane is well ahead of those schools in consideration as well. Could be wrong, but it makes more sense IMO.
Why are you so obsessed with adding a Florida school? It would be just as stupid as the Big East's coast-to-coast expansion, imo. Maybe even more so, because the Big 12 is actually in a position to take on a project school with potential to be a much better conference fit. The Big East had to take the best available football schools, regardless of geography, culture, academics, etc.. We do not.
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I'm not 'obsessed with adding a florida school'. (really those proposing Tulane appear to be the more 'obsessed' ones here) Theyre just not bad options, especially compared to the crappy option that is Tulane. Tulane has academics, and that is it. Academics are a nice bonus when adding a school, but academics alone dont cut it. Might as well add rice too while we're at it. (theyre ranked much higher than Tulane in the latest USNews ranking)
The two florida schools offer the chance to bring top 10 size schools to the big 12. Those will help bring ratings long-term. (they already, without being in nationally relevant conferences, have fanbases 5x the size of Tulane's). And as far as their distance goes, we were apparently willing to talk to BYU at one point (and they had a lot of support here). Does everyone realize how far away they were?
Louisville and cincinatti make geographic sense and have played in a BCS conference (and have fanbases 3x the size of tulane)
Houston would offer a tier 1 academic school and some recent football success. If we're going to invest in a 'project' school, why not do so in a much larger market with more potential viewers to gain?
All of these are better than Tulane, a school that's 6th in fanbase in a fairly small state (behind the Saints, LSU, La Tech, La monroe, and La Lafayette), that's a small school (so its not going to be building a large fanbase anytime soon). Sure, nobody argues its academics, but you can't add a school with nothing else besides that to offer.
Louisville will be in the B12. Heck...I wanted them before WVU. They are a slam dunk and may already be a done deal behind the scenes depending on who you talk to. Beyond that, the B12 has little interest in the other BE schools beyond maybe Rutgers. I think after Louisville, it goes something like this:
ND
FSU
Ark
Kentucky
Rutgers/Tulane
Everyone else....
I expect the first 4 to not happen. I think Rutgers is holding out for ACC/B10. This is why I did more research on Tulane and would welcome them as a 12th if it ends up happening.
There is no back-up plan and going from 10 to 9 reduces conference game TV inventory by 20 percent. TV deals can be voided or renegotiated, probably for 20 percent less. Big 12 teams would also be up **** creek without a paddle for finding another non-conference game at this point. It would be a huge **** up by the Big 12 if WVU is legally forced to stay in Big East for two more years.
