Hawkeye fan not happy

[keokuk1]

I wouldnt be happy if i lived in Keokuk either. Nice backhanded slap. You dont supplement ****.

First off, I don’t live in Keokuk anymore I live in Altoona. Second off I can’t believe someone from cornsucker land insulting a town that he probably has never even been to. So NU scum if there's one thing that I will love about your undeserving crap school joining the Big 10 will be beating your overrated ***** all the way back to no wareville. enjoy your day in the sun.

 

[CyPride]

That's nice.

However, we have been competing in a BCS conference without anybody subsidizing us. We haven't been at the top of the Big 12, but we have been very competitive in most every sport. This is not about us not being BSC calibur, this is about TV sets and no schools (including Iowa) caring one bit about our future.

No one subsidizes us?

 

[bradnjen]

First off, I don’t live in Keokuk anymore I live in Altoona. Second off I can’t believe someone from cornsucker land insulting a town that he probably has never even been to. So NU scum if there's one thing that I will love about your undeserving crap school joining the Big 10 will be beating your overrated ***** all the way back to no wareville. enjoy your day in the sun.

Have to admit I'll root for the Hawks in this fight.

 

[Spursfan11]

Keokuk, as a tax payer in this state you should be concerned. The economic impact of a diminished Iowa State is a scary thought for a state that isn't well off now as it is.

 

[Spursfan11]

A lot depends on who is added in the future. If its schools like Texas or Notre Dame, then it will definitely be harder to have 10 win seasons. But if they stay at 12 or expand to 14 or 16 with schools like Rutgers, Syracuse, Maryland, Missouri, etc. etc. I don't see that big of a difference in difficulty of getting 10 wins in a season compared to their current Big 10 schedule. Gotta remember with expansion and most likely being in a different division then PSU, Michigan, and Ohio State.....Iowa will now be able to dodge these schools more from season to season.

I think that if I were you, I would wait until they decide how they want to divide the conference, and who will all be in the conference, before you make these bold predictions. Hell, I think that I would just wait until they make the rules.


Logically it makes no sense to put your three main programs (OSU, Michigan, and Penn State) up against each other. They have the national names, and they draw the ratings. I am fairly certain if the powers that be in Chicago (Fox) are willing to overlook academics for a national reputation in football, they are aware of this, and more than likely will base all decisions upon this one little fact.

I love that Iowa fans are on here acting like they have any stroke at all with what the Big 10-? will become. It is quite funny.

 

[AlumfromAmes]

Iowa fans should be careful about gloating. If we've learned one thing it is that the old system can change pretty quickly.

Don't ever think that you will always be in same conference just because its been around for a hundred years and you were one of the first members.

Also, remember that this all comes down to television sets. Sorry Iowa fans, but you don't offer much more in tv sets than does ISU.

In a way, ISU's fate is a symptom of a much larger problem. As a state we are simply losing people and jobs. Going from 2 BCS schools to 1 is a symptom just like going from 5 US Representatives to 4. We need to turn things around as a state or we won't even have 1 BCS program.

The bottom line is that Iowa could have easily been in the same mess. All it would have taken would have been for the Big XII to have gone to its own network before the Big Ten. Or, for Dan Beebe to have been at the Big Ten and Jim Delaney at the Big XII.

 

[KeyserSoze]

Iowa fans should be careful about gloating. If we've learned one thing it is that the old system can change pretty quickly.

Don't ever think that you will always be in same conference just because its been around for a hundred years and you were one of the first members.

Also, remember that this all comes down to television sets. Sorry Iowa fans, but you don't offer much more in tv sets than does ISU.

In a way, ISU's fate is a symptom of a much larger problem. As a state we are simply losing people and jobs. Going from 2 BCS schools to 1 is a symptom just like going from 5 US Representatives to 4. We need to turn things around as a state or we won't even have 1 BCS program.

The bottom line is that Iowa could have easily been in the same mess. All it would have taken would have been for the Big XII to have gone to its own network before the Big Ten. Or, for Dan Beebe to have been at the Big Ten and Jim Delaney at the Big XII.

Iowa isn't in the same mess and never will be because they are in the Big Ten Conference and the Big Ten Conference will only get stronger than it's always been.

Your point that all it would've taken would be for Dan Beebe and Jim Delaney to switch conference's for ISU's fortune's to be reversed; the Big Ten is a major conference and therefore would never hire an incompetent hack to oversee the interests of one member...I mean, the conference, as the Big XII did. So your point is not reality-based. It would make just as much sense to claim that ISU wouldn't be in the mess it's in if they would've joined the Big Ten instead of Michigan State. While that would no doubt be true, it's unfortunately not the reality that we are all dealing with.

 

[AlumfromAmes]

Iowa isn't in the same mess and never will be because they are in the Big Ten Conference and the Big Ten Conference will only get stronger than it's always been.

Your point that all it would've taken would be for Dan Beebe and Jim Delaney to switch conference's for ISU's fortune's to be reversed; the Big Ten is a major conference and therefore would never hire an incompetent hack to oversee the interests of one member...I mean, the conference, as the Big XII did. So your point is not reality-based. It would make just as much sense to claim that ISU wouldn't be in the mess it's in if they would've joined the Big Ten instead of Michigan State. While that would no doubt be true, it's unfortunately not the reality that we are all dealing with.

Usually, I would not waste time arguing with somebody as inept as you. However, you are likely a drop-out from Iowa and are in need of education.

First, the reality is that Iowa offers very little to the Big Ten. Read the news articles. Realignment is all about garnering more cable television contracts. U of I does not bring much to the table. It is a miniscule member of the Big Ten. And the Big Ten is not done adding members. Soon, you will have members that make Iowa totally irrelevent in terms of TV sets.

As a conference, it may be doing just fine. But, do you really think that other conferences are not going to respond? The Pac 10 is already moving. The Big East will defend itself and expand. The ACC and SEC will move. This isn't over by any stretch.

You want reality? You, like most Iowa fans, cannot handle it. The reality is that the State of Iowa does not have enough people to make cable television contracts worth much to a conference. You want to think that Iowa can form its own destiny because you think it is special. Its not. Its just a good school from a low-population state.

 

[keepngoal]

Usually, I would not waste time arguing with somebody as inept as you. However, you are likely a drop-out from Iowa and are in need of education.

First, the reality is that Iowa offers very little to the Big Ten. Read the news articles. Realignment is all about garnering more cable television contracts. U of I does not bring much to the table. It is a miniscule member of the Big Ten. And the Big Ten is not done adding members. Soon, you will have members that make Iowa totally irrelevent in terms of TV sets.

As a conference, it may be doing just fine. But, do you really think that other conferences are not going to respond? The Pac 10 is already moving. The Big East will defend itself and expand. The ACC and SEC will move. This isn't over by any stretch.

You want reality? You, like most Iowa fans, cannot handle it. The reality is that the State of Iowa does not have enough people to make cable television contracts worth much to a conference. You want to think that Iowa can form its own destiny because you think it is special. Its not. Its just a good school from a low-population state.

you are absolutly correct .... BUT with revenue sharing (putting the conference first) will keep Iowa in the BigTen as long as Iowa wants to be... the BigTen is now the exclusive club in college sports and they will NOT kick a 'charter' member out .... revenue sharing will keep Iowa and the BigTen together.

-keep

 

[cayin]

The 'west' division will not have a dominant force initially, but eventually either Nebraska, Iowa, or Wisconsin will emerge as a constant favorite to win the division. It's up in the air for the 3 and one of them is going to cease it.

I think we are forgetting about the Illinois. They are set up the best for long term success. They just do not have a good coach right now. If they can turn it around, Iowa is in trouble. We always knew Iowa fan behavior for the most part is arrogant and ignorant, and the events of the last week has brought out the worst in them. I will be rooting hard for the rest of the Big 10 to beat them down. They are riding high right now with our demise and their BCS game last year. However, they got so lucky last year. I mean look, the UNI game, they should have lost. Indiana, the ball bounces off 6 players and they get a 14 point swing with a 95 yard tb return. Then they get the lucky draw in Georgia Tech, the champ of the weakest BCS league last year who style of play fits right into them. Chances are, they will not get that lucky this year.

 

[rfrank2453]

One thing I haven't seen on any thread is anger from the Cyclone faithful directed at ISU leadership, AD or Alumni Association.

Your AD has lead your school down a dark road. A once proud BB school is now a revolving door. Your football program has been spotty at best. A winning program makes you a desired target for other conferences. Did JP do anything to head this off? Expansion talk has been out there for awhile. ISU to the MWC with Boise State winds up in a new BCS Conference.....

Why has the school admin allowed this to happen?

Why are you taking tax dollars for expansion? Your Alumni Assoc should be offsetting all expansion/improvements with Alum donations. My wife's Aunt & Uncle are very affluent ISU grads. They have zero connection to ISU. They are big "givers" to other foundations...... They also claim zero contact from ISU. I get mail weekly from the Iowa Sports Program and the School of Liberal Arts.....I give to both.

I understand your anger..... It seems directed everywhere else except internally. UT, NU, OU or CU didn't make you a team with strong local appeal but irrellevent on the national stage. That responsibilty lies completely internal to ISU and it's management.

I really want to see ISU land in a BCS conference. The long term viability of the Iowa/ISU game depends on it. Without the BCS status the Iowa/ISU Game will eventually become as important as the tOSU vs Ohio University game. This statement would hold true if the roles were reversed.

 

[keepngoal]

Damn you Pollard ... you moved NU to the Big10.

GG: Why did you broker the deal for CU ...

damn you ... all.

-keep

 

[TarHeelHawk]

I think we are forgetting about the Illinois. They are set up the best for long term success. They just do not have a good coach right now. If they can turn it around, Iowa is in trouble. We always knew Iowa fan behavior for the most part is arrogant and ignorant, and the events of the last week has brought out the worst in them. I will be rooting hard for the rest of the Big 10 to beat them down. They are riding high right now with our demise and their BCS game last year. However, they got so lucky last year. I mean look, the UNI game, they should have lost. Indiana, the ball bounces off 6 players and they get a 14 point swing with a 95 yard tb return. Then they get the lucky draw in Georgia Tech, the champ of the weakest BCS league last year who style of play fits right into them. Chances are, they will not get that lucky this year.

I love the playing of the "Iowa got lucky last year" card, especially when it is played with no mention whatsoever of the many crippling injuries at key positions.

When was the last time Illinois has any sustained success? I'm 30 years old and I can't ever remember a period of time where Illinois was any good for a prolonged period of time.

 

[TarHeelHawk]

Usually, I would not waste time arguing with somebody as inept as you. However, you are likely a drop-out from Iowa and are in need of education.

First, the reality is that Iowa offers very little to the Big Ten. Read the news articles. Realignment is all about garnering more cable television contracts. U of I does not bring much to the table. It is a miniscule member of the Big Ten. And the Big Ten is not done adding members. Soon, you will have members that make Iowa totally irrelevent in terms of TV sets.

As a conference, it may be doing just fine. But, do you really think that other conferences are not going to respond? The Pac 10 is already moving. The Big East will defend itself and expand. The ACC and SEC will move. This isn't over by any stretch.

You want reality? You, like most Iowa fans, cannot handle it. The reality is that the State of Iowa does not have enough people to make cable television contracts worth much to a conference. You want to think that Iowa can form its own destiny because you think it is special. Its not. Its just a good school from a low-population state.

Signed,
Nebraska.

 

[cyfan964]

Signed,
Nebraska.

Bingo. There are enough TV sets if you win. Just win baby.

 

[TykeClone]

Damn you Pollard ... you moved NU to the Big10.

GG: Why did you broker the deal for CU ...

damn you ... all.

-keep

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[MoreCowbell]

I was at a wedding in eastern Iowa today and all the comments I heard were similar to "what community college conference is ISU going to be in?"

I was at a wedding in DM yesterday and the comments I heard were that ISU would have to go down to DII. The groom was the definition of at tavern hawk, though, so I didn't really expect much less.

 

[keokuk1]

I don't know that I agree with your statement about Ill. a large number of people that live in Ill go to Iowa. they are a paper tiger at best. As far as Iowa losong population thats not accurate the state of Iowa has gone from in the early 80,s having 2.8 M down to 2.5M in the late 80,s and now has gone back up to over 3M. so I don't know why everyone keeps saying that we are losing population when in fact Iowa gains some ware between 10 and 50 K each year.

 

[cc1091]

I love the idea that the squawk-eyes will now have the equivalent of two Ohio State's on their schedule every year. What would be better is if Iowa got booted out of the Big 10 because of their tiny TV audience and relatively small student population and had to join the a Big 12 where Texas and Oklahoma still await.

Black and gold feathers everywhere.

 

[HawkFanISUalum]

I love the idea that the squawk-eyes will now have the equivalent of two Ohio State's on their schedule every year. What would be better is if Iowa got booted out of the Big 10 because of their tiny TV audience and relatively small student population and had to join the a Big 12 where Texas and Oklahoma still await.

Black and gold feathers everywhere.

Hahaha...you really think Nebraska = Ohio State?

I'll have some of what you're smoking...