Hawkeye fan not happy
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I never said that the U of I gets no subsidies of any kind. But the poster I quoted was trying to claim that ISU's athletic department isn't/wasn't subsidized at all. Which was either gross ignorance on his part or a bald-faced lie.
And telling someone to move from the state that they've spent all of their 20 years of life living in (and is a current student at the U of I for its strong journalism program) is asking a great deal more than saying "if you don't want to support us, then don't get cable". Livelihood and cable are to vastly different things.
Wow, another brilliant hawk fan...
I am sure that reading comprehension was just a suggestion from your teachers, but I will go slow for you.
He supposedly came in peace, but then the second somebody discussed the reality of what Iowa actually brings to the table for the Big 10, he couldn't help himself and went idiot Iowa fan on us. He spent post after post chastizing (that means making fun of) Iowa State fans for diminishing Iowa's resume, BUT then he goes and does the EXACT same thing thing to Nebraska's resume.
I get that this is fun for you. But you might want to stop being that embarrassing Iowan that we have to defend to people around the country when you all act like this.
You might want to take your own advice.
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That's NOT what he was doing. You think Iowa fans are the only ones who think that Nebraska will never be NEBRASKA again? Try listening to any talking head on ESPN. They have too many things to overcome (population size in particular) to become that kind of program again. They'll be very good pretty consistently, I have no doubt. But they won't be in the same class as OSU, Florida, Texas, etc. ever again. They won't load up on elite talent every year like they used to. The playing field in recruiting has been leveled too much for a school in such a low-population state to have THAT kind of success anymore.
And he wasn't demeaning Nebraska's TV contribution so much as to say: why would the BT add a school with lower TV numbers than us if OUR numbers weren't sufficient?
Obviously you guys must all hang out, because you don't comprehend much of this. These posters came on here and tried to play a sympathetic role, but the second the reality of Iowa's real standing is mentioned, they attack. You did it to jsb. It's like you guys can't help yourselves.
In reality, Nebraska brings more televisions than Iowa does. They don't just bring Nebraska, they bring the Dakotas, Wyoming, Colorado, and Kansas. The entire upper Plain states is FULL of Cornhusker fans. And the simple fact is that they are still a national program (and I am no Nebraska fan at all), and they travel better than you do.
You guys just don't like that they look at you like you look at Iowa State. And they are as obnoxious towards you as you are to Iowa State.
They are you, mentality wise, except they actually have national championship football trophies. Just think, they are what you want to be.
It doesn't matter how classy or nice an Iowa fan is. Fans like you will never accept a fan like me. I have said absolutely nothing negative about Iowa State in my posts thus far. I called you out for freaking out on him about a post relating to Nebraska. I know it's hard for you to believe that an Iowa fan could also be an Iowa State fan, and you will never believe it no matter what I say or do, and that is fine. Just don't sit there and say I'm an embarrassing Iowa fan or that "we all act like this" when these own boards show that is absolutely not true. Or tell me to take my own advice, when I have done nothing whatsoever to show that I don't practice what I preach.
Your fight is not with me. I support Iowa State and sincerely hope all ends well with this expansion business. You can continue to hate all Iowa fans just please don't take it out on the ones that actually do give a crap about Iowa State, and don't take any pleasure in this. I mean it. Please read through all 25 of my posts or whatever number I am currently at. I did not come on here to bash Iowa State. I came on here because I am very interested to see what comes about, and I know that the diehard Iowa State fans will be the ones to best keep me up to date. I also came on here to show my support for a great school in the state I live in.
Your entire post is just disappointing to me because A. your reading comprehension comments make no sense. I was referring to ONE post of his. B. your sarcasm about me being a "brilliant Hawk fan" makes no sense C. your "you might want to take your own advice" comment makes absolutely no sense since I have done nothing to suggest I do otherwise. D. your "I know this is fun for you" comment makes no sense since NO in fact this situation is not fun for me, and believe it or not I don't root for ISU's demise.
Please understand that there are actually Hawkeye fans/non Iowa State fans who want to see Iowa State come clean through all of this. Obviously there will always be the obnoxious fans who have nothing better to do than kick people while they're down, but they are a very, very small minority, despite their being a very vocal minority. I just ask you to keep an open mind, and accept support from others than just Iowa State fans. The support is there you just have to choose to see it.
When it comes to people paying the .70 (or whatever the amount is for states in the Big 10's footprint) they don't. 3 million > 1.8 million. If expanding the Big 10 was strictly about tv sets, the Big 10 could have done a lot better than Nebraska.
That's laughable. The very few times that some of you have talked serious about Iowa I am nothing but fair. Most Iowa fans that post here just start trouble and are childish d-bags. TarHeelHawk and a few actually post some good respectable smack talk. The rest well as I said, d-bags. I never said Iowa got lucky last year. Good teams make good plays at crunch time. I will say that the way O'Keefe calls the offense so conservative has bit Iowa in the past. I did laugh last year when you guys said that nobody was giving Iowa the respect in the rankings they deserve. Not that I didn't think Iowa was a top 10 team. But because to work your way up in the rankings by decisive victories. You can't scrape by teams like UNI and Arkansas State.
That's correct. You do it with decisive victories at Wisconsin, Penn State, and ISU.
Except that the reality of Iowa's position is NOT as you have laid it out. The Big Ten isn't about to kick out a charter member at any point. We DO offer some athletic success (not OSU by any means, but it's still pretty solid), and we're a respected academic and research institution. If we were in a conference such as the Big 12, where Texas ran the show and demanded all the money and power, we would be in trouble. But that's not the kind of situation that we're in.
How hard is this to comprehend??? Apparently pretty damn hard.
You don't think that with the large population of Nebraska fans that live in the upper plain states will want this network? This is why they were invited. If it was just the state of Nebraska that they brought, then they wouldn't have been invited. They are THE program in that geographical area. The people in those states will want the Btn. There is at least 10 million tv sets, and for most of them, Nebraska is the team.
Now the Btn will run uniterruped from Pennsylvania to Colorado and Wyoming across the upper Midwest. Then they look East at Rutgers and Maryland, possibly a UCOnn, and there are 25 million more tv's. The business model is simple. Keep growing, or you die. There is a lot of growth still available for them.
Plus they are always going to chase Notre Dame.
There is no way you could possibly read anything in my post that is anti ISU. You can however read in my post anti NU, so that begs the question, are you really an ISU fan or a NU fan? I can’t possibly conceive how any rational person could possibly say that I have in any way posted anything bashing ISU. I also can’t possibly comprehend anybody thinking that this is somehow Iowa’s fault. This has everything to do with NU and Texas getting into a ******* match with one another. NU wasn’t getting what they wanted and Texas was being greedy. I do agree with you that there have been a lot of A holes in the Iowa fan base that for some reason get a kick out of this ,but I think that most Iowa fans aren’t getting any pleasure out of seeing ISU getting screwed. I think that there are rightfully so, a lot of mad ISU fans. I also think that because so many short sighted Iowa fans that have come on here rubbing it in your face makes ISU fans want to blame Iowa. But if ISU fans look at this objectively the ones to blame is NU, and Texas. As a matter of fact, the two schools have been going out of their way to point the finger at each other because neither one of them want to take responsibility for what both are responsible for. So in less you are an NU fan just trying to deflect the real truth about NU being responsible for the predicament ISU is in because you are a lesser school to ISU and you don’t want that to get out, then I suggest you go back and actually read my post.
Well they(iowa fans) wont be laughing long ,cause this will hurt the state of Iowa and the flow of money ... We will be alright ISU will land on its feet ..Just glad JP is working for us !I worry less with him being on our side ... this man is smart and I am sure has a plan .
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I get what your saying. Nebraska is what Iowa wants to be and never will be. The dominant program of the midwest(top 10 nationally) with conference championships(numerous ones), National titles, countless numbers of AA's, and Heisman Trophy winners. If you ever are out DRINKING with an Iowa fan and have a heart to heart they will admit that's why they hate Nebraska so bad.
Ahh the famous we matter we really matter hawk argument.
Look it isn't complicated, and iowa is safe for the time being.
This move, and any further realignment completely changes everything in college athletics. Nobody knows what college athletics will look like ten years from now.
The btn is not finished expanding, they will continue to add teams. IF I were an Iowa fan, and I have no problem with Iowa, except for the idiot hawk fans, this would concern me.
The arrogance that would suggest that they wouldn't kick Iowa out is premature.
What states do you consider the Upper/Great Plains? N/S Dakota, Wyoming, Montana? How many people do you think actually think live in those four combined states?
I never said that those people wouldn't want that network, so I don't know where you're getting that. Maybe you're just making it up, you've been doing an awful lot of that with everyone today. What I am saying is that the people who are Nebraska fans that don't live in Nebraska - that is, outside of the state - only pay .10 for the BTN, not the .70 that the people who live in Nebraska will pay for it.
Of course the 'sker fans that live outside of Nebraska will want the BTN - they're just going to pay a whole lot less for it.
As is the arrogance from you suggesting they would, especially when you say that no one knows what the landscape is going to look like 10 years from now.
Wow, you're a real piece of work. Even when a few Hawk fans come around and offer some genuine support, you lash out at us. If you'd prefer that we conform to your cookie-cutter mold of an Iowa fan, by all means, I could do that easily enough. But since I'd prefer to actually act like an adult, I'm not going to do that.
Do you have a link or some documentation for the # of TV sets that Nebraska represents in those states?
